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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 173
Latest Activity: yesterday

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Living in the forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 27. 6 Replies

Good plants that volunteer.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 25. 17 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W May 2. 2 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 2. 1 Reply

Rooftop Gardens

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 3. 20 Replies

How to Make a Food Forest Suburb

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 1. 1 Reply

Fantastic Fungi - a film by Louie Schwartzberg

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 28. 1 Reply

Michael Pollan On Joel Salatin's Polyface Farm

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Mar 22. 1 Reply

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Comment by Daniel W on October 22, 2013 at 5:05pm
Joan that saying has a lot of wisdom! I never like mediocrity but there is no such thing as perfect either. In fact nothing even comes close to perfect.

Somewhere there is a "Chinese" saying. I put in quotes because Ning never heard it before I told him. "the farmers footprints are the best fertilizer". Meaning by being in the gardn often, we see what needs to be done, and do it, and it doesnt fall to neglect. Which is basically the same, for me, as "puttering meditation". Which gives me peace of mind and helps the garden grow.
Comment by Joan Denoo on October 22, 2013 at 12:04pm

Daniel, I laughed when I read your comment because you thought of voles and moles and I thought of hawks. So, a structure with lower and upper protection would be perfect. Oh! I like the old saying, "Don't make perfect the enemy of good"!

No matter, it all involves a lot of work. Right now, my task is to get GM-free-seeds and plan for spring. Even the thought inspires me. 

Comment by Plinius on October 22, 2013 at 2:14am

A lot of work and well done! Looks like a lovely garden.

Comment by Daniel W on October 22, 2013 at 1:09am
Please send Daniela over to do the same for my garden! :) Perfect!

Well, not sure if it will help with voles and moles. But it looks great!
Comment by Joan Denoo on October 22, 2013 at 12:55am

Here is a well protected garden! 

Daniela's newly fenced veggie garden in Ohio

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 20, 2013 at 10:15am

Thanks for your insights on melons Randall, and, your good wishes. : )

I didn't notice any of mine tasting sour, so maybe they weren't overripe.

Anyway, I look forward to learning more in years to come, and hope I can acquire a little land, so I can grow more varieties every year.

Comment by Randall Smith on October 20, 2013 at 8:03am

Spud: Like most fruits, watermelons do taste different according to "ripeness". Your first one probably wasn't ready. Overripe ones begin to taste sour. My father still rates cantelopes on a 1 to 10 scale. May you continue to get 10s!

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 19, 2013 at 3:41pm

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 19, 2013 at 10:18am

I've been enjoying eating my watermelon, and they taste much better than they did at first.

I don't know why that is.  High expectations?  Doesn't seem likely.  Flavor improved while in the refrigerator?  People say that they don't ripen anymore once they're picked, but maybe the flavor can improve if they're already ripe (or overripe).  Any thoughts?

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 13, 2013 at 7:55am

No worries about voles and rabbits here, but I'd rather live in the country with the country problems than the city with city problems.

The country has less government regulations, more peace & quiet, and less costly land.  

Even just a half acre garden would be wonderful compared to the pitiful 10 by 30 foot garden I have here. 


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