Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry yesterday. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston yesterday. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

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Comment by Idaho Spud on April 2, 2013 at 6:57am

Chris, I like your indoor green vine.

Sentient, as usual, I'm jealous of your back yard.  Hope you can relax and not overdo the work until you heal.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 2, 2013 at 2:18am

Amer, I like your instructions for schulmbergera. They provide a lot of pleasure for so little effort. 

Chris, that is a good solution for your lighting situation. Your vine is pretty, looks nicely green across the room as you have it. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 2, 2013 at 2:14am
Sentient, your garden is so beautiful! A lovely place to heal ! Your figs look healthy; they will supply you with all the figs you can eat. Schlumbergera look really healthy and the colors lovely.
Comment by Daniel W on April 1, 2013 at 10:24pm

Here is my back yard now.  It is in a stage of benign neglect but looks nice with the fruit trees blooming.  The pink trees are peaches, the others are pears, sweet cherries, and pie cherries.  The area under the fruit trees has a lot of roses and bulbs.




Here are my fig cuttings now. They have a good head start. The outdoor fig trees have barely swelling buds. These should be about 2 foot tall by fall. All but 2 cuttings survived while I was in the hospital. Now I am taking them outside in a shady spot for the day, and back inside in the evening. That acclimates them to the brighter sun and more variable conditions outside.

Comment by Daniel W on April 1, 2013 at 10:18pm

On Schlumbergera, I have about 10 of them.  During the summer I keep them outside in a shady spot or north side of the house, and water about once weekly.  In the fall I bring them inside when frost seems likely.  I use a house plant fertilizer, that requires 7 drops per quart, for a dilute fertilizer.  After blooming they just get water about every other week until Spring when I escalate again to weekly.  I grow them in a general purpose potting mix, same as for other house plants.  

I would cut off the diseased looking parts.  

Comment by amer chohan on April 1, 2013 at 4:59pm

Dallas, schulmbergera are winter flowering plants. But it dosn't mean that winter is their thriving period. Cold temperatures only trigger their flower formation. I talked to a professional friend about it. He told me that they should be given more organic stuff than normal cacti. But drainage and quick drying after watering is essential.

Infact more you water in the summer, more it flowers in the winter. Instead of using poor soil, you can use soil from your garden beds and add a little fine sand in it. Don't forget to put broken pottery or pebbles in the bottom of pot to insure the drainage. More quickly it dries more you can water. And proper watering in the summer means water untill it runs through the bottom. Water only two days after surface shows the dryness.

In the winter only wet the surface after 4 days to keep the roots moist. One more intresting thing I was told about it was not to move a flowering christmas cactus otherwise it will drop the buds or stop flowering.

Comment by Plinius on April 1, 2013 at 12:53am

Dallas, I have got a similar problem, a deep room and only windows on the NW side. But I didn't like the thought to have only a few plants on the windowsill, so I tried this, and it works. So far there are about seven or eight metres of plant.

Comment by A Former Member on March 31, 2013 at 9:45pm

@ Joan: I've never heard of the Calathea either. I'm certain I'd kill it. My problem is that I don't really have any ideal place to keep plants indoors. I only have two windows and one sliding glass door. With the dogs, I'd have to keep them out of the way anyhow, so the door is out of the question. I'm trying a few succulents indoor this year, in my office with a window that faces northeast. They won't be disturbed too much here. 

Also, during the winter the air is too dry, I think. So that's an issue for delicate plants like the Calathea. 

@ Amer, I thought the xmas cactus thrived during the winter months, as that is when it blooms. I bought mine for $1 in late December. It was just a small specimen, and had one flower that bloomed. I only water it about once a week. It has three buds on it now, but they have not opened. 

Overall the plant looks good, except for that brown spot, which I was afraid may spread.

During the winter I normally bring my cacti indoors. I put them on my closet floor where they are away from drafts and from the central heat. I put grow light in there and keep it on 12 hrs at a time usually. I only water them once a month except for the succulents which seemed to need water more frequently. I do lose some, but most survive. 

Now that spring is nearly here I've moved them outdoors and I am watering them perhaps every 7 - 10 days. Just a little. I don't drench them. 

I buy the cactus soil from the store. The only place to get poor soil would be to go out in a field somewhere and dig it up, which I guess I can do. I know not to water them for a week after repotting. 

I have to keep mine on the concrete. If I keep them in the flower beds the automatic sprinkler will get them twice a week. Some I let do that, but not many. But on the concrete they get really hot, as it reaches triple digits here. Then I may water them every three days--just to help keep them cool. Sometimes I just water down the concrete and the exterior surfaces of the pots just to keep them cool that way without wetting the soil, but that evaporates quickly and is only a quick fix. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 31, 2013 at 5:11pm

Dallas, fascinating photos! What excellent choices you have! I've never seen or heard of Calathea lancifolia.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 31, 2013 at 5:08pm

Amer, it is a real joy to have you in this group and contributing your experience and knowledge. With your photos to demonstrate your points, I am well prepared to make necessary changes in technique.  


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