Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture here, here,here, here, here, here, here, here. Food forest.

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

Permaculture, John D. Liu

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 3. 8 Replies

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Comment by A Former Member on March 31, 2013 at 9:45pm

@ Joan: I've never heard of the Calathea either. I'm certain I'd kill it. My problem is that I don't really have any ideal place to keep plants indoors. I only have two windows and one sliding glass door. With the dogs, I'd have to keep them out of the way anyhow, so the door is out of the question. I'm trying a few succulents indoor this year, in my office with a window that faces northeast. They won't be disturbed too much here. 

Also, during the winter the air is too dry, I think. So that's an issue for delicate plants like the Calathea. 

@ Amer, I thought the xmas cactus thrived during the winter months, as that is when it blooms. I bought mine for $1 in late December. It was just a small specimen, and had one flower that bloomed. I only water it about once a week. It has three buds on it now, but they have not opened. 

Overall the plant looks good, except for that brown spot, which I was afraid may spread.

During the winter I normally bring my cacti indoors. I put them on my closet floor where they are away from drafts and from the central heat. I put grow light in there and keep it on 12 hrs at a time usually. I only water them once a month except for the succulents which seemed to need water more frequently. I do lose some, but most survive. 

Now that spring is nearly here I've moved them outdoors and I am watering them perhaps every 7 - 10 days. Just a little. I don't drench them. 

I buy the cactus soil from the store. The only place to get poor soil would be to go out in a field somewhere and dig it up, which I guess I can do. I know not to water them for a week after repotting. 

I have to keep mine on the concrete. If I keep them in the flower beds the automatic sprinkler will get them twice a week. Some I let do that, but not many. But on the concrete they get really hot, as it reaches triple digits here. Then I may water them every three days--just to help keep them cool. Sometimes I just water down the concrete and the exterior surfaces of the pots just to keep them cool that way without wetting the soil, but that evaporates quickly and is only a quick fix. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 31, 2013 at 5:11pm

Dallas, fascinating photos! What excellent choices you have! I've never seen or heard of Calathea lancifolia.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 31, 2013 at 5:08pm

Amer, it is a real joy to have you in this group and contributing your experience and knowledge. With your photos to demonstrate your points, I am well prepared to make necessary changes in technique.  

Comment by amer chohan on March 31, 2013 at 11:07am

Dallas there is not much wrong with your christmas cactus. Cactus are in dormancy in the winter. In dormancy usually they look rough and unhealthy. Moment season changes whole look is changed. But only if there roots are in healthy condition. I suspect that is not the case with your cactus. So your cactus have two disadvantages, one it is looking unhealthy, second it will spend spring recovering instead of growing and flowering. 

If I were you, I would have changed its medium and pot too. Introduce it to a poor soil(Cacti feel happy in it, Rich organic mediums are only for professionals) in a clay pot which has more width in comparison to hight and with excellent drainage. Don't water it for 10 days after replanting. If it shows signs of health during dryness period, it means roots are alright and you can water normally. If its condition remains same then place it in the shade and only wet the surface after 2 days until it shows signs of health. It can take months depending upon damage to the roots. Here is an example of pot and the soil. 

Comment by amer chohan on March 30, 2013 at 10:42pm

 He doesn't do too much to it, but it's grown so much it has split this pot

That is the answer to all of your troubles. 

I am sorry, my ISP is in very bad mood these days. I have to wait long for lucky moments to post even a few lines. I will try today in the non-rush hours to answer all of your posts in detail Dallas.

Comment by A Former Member on March 30, 2013 at 7:15pm

I went to the nursery today. Here are some neat plants I found (but did not buy). 

This was not labeled, but it looks like a black aspidistra to me. 

This is a "devil's backbone" euphorbia.

And this is called a Calathea lancifolia. How beautiful. The leaves look like hand-painted pottery.


Comment by Joan Denoo on March 30, 2013 at 4:01pm

Dallas, your pot options sound good. Just one more little chore that keeps us interested. 

Comment by A Former Member on March 30, 2013 at 12:37pm

Joan, no prob about the name. Typos are to be expected. My xmas cactus gets no direct sun, nothing harmful anyhow. Water perhaps. Maybe I'm too messy. 

That robust cactus was inside only due to the freeze. He said he leaves it out back and only occasionally waters it. 

I can soak them in the tub, I guess. Or a large plastic trash can. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 30, 2013 at 12:35pm

Chris, with your success story of rosemary, when I am finished with my next challenge, I am going to give rosemary another try, using your suggestions. I thought it required dry soil because of all the rosemary I saw growing in the median of arterials in California. 

I just Googled rosemary, moisture, requirements and found this


Thank you, also, for reminding to soak pots before planting in them. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 30, 2013 at 12:26pm

Amer, your cacti brighten my day, What a lovely way to get started. The yellows, fresh and bright, reminds me of the early morning, new beginnings, new tasks, a new day or job or friend. Yellow, to me, represents anything unfamiliar and new.


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