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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 170
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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W 22 hours ago. 2 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by A Former Member on April 15, 2013 at 6:43pm

Thanks. I thought so. It did not freeze here either this year. I'll harvest some and cut some back, too. 

I just planted a bunch more herbs, too. I'll post photos when they fill out. 

Comment by A Former Member on April 15, 2013 at 6:40pm

My grandmother used to tell us about her youngest son, my uncle Orville, ate coal. Her doctor told her a child who eats coal needs the minerals it contains. That would been about 1915. Folk medicine may have some credibility.

Hmmm...this sounds fishy. Coal would be very toxic. I can't believe anyone would allow a child to eat it, or dismiss it with a post-hoc rationalization like that. People were strange, or gullible, or something.

Comment by Dominic Florio on April 15, 2013 at 6:40pm

It loves to be cut.  It doesn't freeze here obviously  but it gets all woody and bare.  I cut back to nothing and it becomes a beautiful mound.

Comment by A Former Member on April 15, 2013 at 6:34pm

My Italian oregano is getting too lanky, I think. I can just cut it back hard and it will fill out again, like new?

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 15, 2013 at 12:43pm

How to Test Your Soil - a Quick Primer

From "The Herb Gardener". Spring is a good time for testing soil, and it is easy to do. Some you can do yourself, some require an inexpensive teat kit for the hardware, and you can send soil samples to USA Dept. of Agriculture. All instructions are here. 

I have different soils in different parts of my garden. Some plants prefer acidic soils, some alkaline. Information on these factors can easily be found on the internet. 

It won't be long and I will be getting my hands deeply into the soil. That is the best part of spring. 

Hope you are doing well and that you see to it that you have some fun.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 15, 2013 at 7:15am

Thanks for the clay antidote video Dallas.  Very interesting.

Comment by Plinius on April 15, 2013 at 1:31am

Thanks Dallas, that was good info! Like Joan says, our mothers didn't have access to information and merely followed tradition. I know my mother was put in a job when 12 years old - from that time she read nothing except a bible and an antique cookbook. How lucky we are!

I enjoyed the film very much, lots of info there!

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 14, 2013 at 5:49pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 14, 2013 at 4:36pm

Dallas, you are a real jewel! Your incredible site find, "Eating clay", reveals so many different examples of an evolved development. With your research about chalk, we have information to which our mothers and grandmothers didn't have access.

My grandmother used to tell us about her youngest son, my uncle Orville, ate coal. Her doctor told her a child who eats coal needs the minerals it contains. That would been about 1915. Folk medicine may have some credibility.

The animals  and birds shown in the film seem to have this all pretty well figured out, including predatory enemies.  

Have you ever seen butterflies or lady bugs on a seep hole? A very lovely sight we used to enjoy as kids at Lake Chatcolet in Idaho.

Butterflies at the drinking hole

Here is an interesting project:

720,000 ladybugs released

Comment by A Former Member on April 14, 2013 at 2:56pm

@ Chris: Well, you would know. Still, that leaves me curious as to why she would do it. I thought perhaps I'd see what I could find online. I was thinking chalk must surely be made from limestone, which indeed it is: 

Chalk (pron.: /ˈɔːk/) is a soft, white, porous sedimentary rock, a form oflimestone composed of the mineral calcite. Calcite is calcium carbonate or CaCO3. It forms under reasonably deep marine conditions from the gradual accumulation of minute calcite plates (coccoliths) shed from micro-organisms called coccolithophores. It is common to find chert or flint nodules embedded in chalk. Chalk can also refer to other compounds including magnesium silicateand calcium sulfate.

Since it is a form of calcium, it's reasonable to assume that kitchen lore would encourage eating it if it was believed that spinach used up your existing calcium. Still, it doesn't sound very appetizing. 

Under the uses for chalk, wikipedia does not list any culinary uses, except in toothpaste and as an antacid. When I google "adding chalk to spinach" or "eating chalk in spinach" I can't find anything.

Perhaps that was just a regional thing.  

Also, all this talk about eating chalk reminds me about how animals eat clay to counteract toxins in plants, as seen in this video:

 

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