Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 170
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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry 9 hours ago. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston yesterday. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

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Comment by Daniel W on May 3, 2013 at 10:04pm

Skimming the comments, I thought you were all talking about Sarah Palin.  I would not mind if she went into the snow storm and was lost.  But it didn't make sense to me so I googled.  Guess I missed some American Culture or something.  

I grew up in the Midwest near the Mississippi.  Summers, hot sticky humid mosquito ridden.  Winters bitter cold snow ice wind.  Spring floods but mostly ok, Fall OK.  Didn't like the climate.  Happier in Pacific NW which to me is paradise.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 3, 2013 at 2:10pm

The snowstorm was scary.  It reminds me of St. Anthony Idaho where I was raised.  Lots of snow and temperatures as low as -30 F or colder.  And walking a mile or two to school and back.  But I don't remember the snowstorms being as bad as in that movie.

I have it easy also Joan.  And I plan on continuing that way.  I never would have put-up with living where the land seemed intent on driving you out or killing you, as it did in that movie.  

If I would have been Sarah's husband, I would have accepted an offer to work on the coast where there was plenty of rain and relatively mild weather.  That business of writing your name in the soil, and belonging to the land that's trying to kill you did not resonate with my personality at all.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 3, 2013 at 11:47am
I liked the "Sarah Plain and Tall" trilogy. One scene stands out, when Sarah went into the snow storm and was lost. I know she survived, but it was a scary scene. Also some of the tasks she had to do ... back breaking work. I have it so easy. Thanks for reminding me Spud.
Comment by Annie Thomas on May 3, 2013 at 10:09am

Well, I've been looking at that elderberry for years, wondering what to do with it, and finally got around to asking you all about it yesterday.  This morning at about 6 am, I woke up to the sounds of a heavy rain storm.  I went to the back window to look out at the weather and saw the elderberry fall!  It's still about 10 feet high, so I will saw it down a bit with the storm passes.  I love when nature makes my decisions for me.

Chris- after reading your comment I ran out into the rain and harvested the crowns of flowers.  I'll look online to see what I can do with them.  Thanks so much!

Comment by Plinius on May 3, 2013 at 12:13am

Wow Annie, what a beautiful harvest! I planted beans and they're just starting to flower.

As far as I know, elderberry grows anywhere, anyhow, whatever you do to it. You can also harvest the flowers when you're lopping it; there are recipes on internet.

Enjoy the rain, Dominic, I can imagine a place where it never rains, but I don't want to be there....

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 2, 2013 at 6:38pm

Dominic, your comment about standing in the rain reminds me of one of my favorite movies.  Have you seen "Skylark"?  It's the second in the "Sarah Plain and Tall" trilogy.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 2, 2013 at 6:30pm

Annie, nice squash and beans!  

Dominic, I like your beach picture.  Makes me wish I were still on the California coast.

Hasn't rained here in about 10 days, and my rain-barrels are almost empty, being used on my transplants.

Comment by Annie Thomas on May 2, 2013 at 6:08pm

Thanks Joan!  Come July, it will be my turn to have gardener's envy, as everything here will be dried up.

Dominic- we've had a wet spring up here in Gainesville.  It's raining here today too... slow and steady, just as you described.  I laughed out loud at your comment, "God must be ignoring all the brides and picnic goers right now." 

Does anyone have experience with Elderberry?  I have a very tall (over 20 ft.), stringy tree.  It's flowering right now.  When there is fruit, it is much too high for me to pick.  I was thinking of lopping it off at breast height, thinking it will either throw out shoots and become bushy... or die.  If it's the latter, I'd rather leave it as is, as the birds enjoy the fruit probably more than I would.  Any advice would be appreciated.

Comment by Dominic Florio on May 2, 2013 at 5:55pm

The most wonderful thing is happening in Florida, it's raining.  It has been so long since rain fell.  I actually go out and stand in it, because it is just so amazing and life giving.  It's great not to have to drag out the hose.  It's one of those slow rains, all day long, where it really soaks in.  You can see such a difference as compared to hand watering.  I guess all the prayers of the farmers and gardeners have been answered.  God must be ignoring all the brides and picnic goers right now.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 2, 2013 at 5:18pm

Annie, my goodness, my soil isn't warm enough for bean seeds yet. Although after today, it should be right up there. 

A lovely harvest! Can almost taste them. Please keep us posted. 


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