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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry on Friday. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston on Thursday. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 30, 2013 at 11:54am

I Googled "hot pepper to stop vermin eating brassicas"

Organic Gardening- Natural Pest Prevention and Control

here is one plant to use as companion plant, and there many others offered. 

  • Borage is a great companion for tomatoes and cabbage as it repels both tomato horn worm and cabbage moths. It also helps strawberries and is beneficial to practically everything in the garden. I plant throughout.
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 30, 2013 at 11:48am

Here is a link I found by Googling, "Brassicas, something eating leaves."

IDigMyGarden Forums > Squashing Pests & Problems > Brassi...

It mentions rabbits, slugs, mice, aphids, gophers, rats. 

The remedies offered: cats, pet snakes, cam corder, motion detector sprinkler, and others. 

Comment by Randall Smith on May 30, 2013 at 7:05am

Dang rabbits! They have a nose--then taste--for brassicas. My cauliflower starts totally disappeared, Br. sprouts and broc. defoliated. I've fenced, garlic sprayed, covered--all to no avail. Next is either a dog (who will tear up the garden) or a gun (not). Guess I'll just have to accept the inevitable. 

Comment by Daniel W on May 29, 2013 at 9:27pm

Patricia, that's great!  You are way further north than I am.  So maybe I can replicate some of your success!  

Does he have the peppers and muskmelons in the ground yet?  I planted peppers in a barrel 3 weeks ago - warmer - and some in a raised bed last week.  Muskmelons are just getting started.

Comment by Daniel W on May 29, 2013 at 4:31pm

Joan, beautiful pictures!

So observant regarding how the spiraling pattern resembles the golden mean.

If my broccoli doesn't work out, I'll feed the leaves to the chickens.  Then I get to eat it as eggs.  

Spud, Chinese chives have a more garlic flavor.  They are also called garlic chives.  They are not as delicate texture as regular chives.

My bok choy went to flowers before there was enough bok choy to eat.  I was going to pull that out for chicken food, but honeybees are all over the flowers, so they must like them.

The other brassicas are also failing to do much.  Maybe wrong time or wrong climate.  

I'm planting swiss chard again.  Maybe it will do better.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 29, 2013 at 9:54am

The Golden Mean in plants

Plants and Fibonacci Numbers

A Fibonacci number

1 + 1 =  2

1 +  2 = 3

2 +  3 =  5

3 +  5 =  8 

5 +  8 = 13

etc. 

Fibonacci numbers 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 29, 2013 at 9:35am

The brassicas need a head start in growing. I start my seeds sometime around March 15, the Ides of March (The Ides of March was just another date on the Roman calendar until the fateful day in 44 B.C. when Julius Caesar was assassinated.)

In my climate, I don't set the seedlings into the garden until I harden them off, and then plant outside on June 1. We have been known to have a killing frost as late as June 16. The brassicas can withstand that temperature, as can peas, however other tender plants cannot, such as beans or tomatoes. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 29, 2013 at 6:18am

Sentient, I'm going to try broccoli this fall or maybe next year.   I don't yet know when to plant it, but I'll try to remember Annie's tip about leaving some to grow more.  I tried that with my cauliflower last year but it didn't work with that.  Does the Chinese chives taste different?

I probably started the Brussels Sprouts too late this spring.  If so, I'll try some this fall.

Those sprouts do have a twist Joan!  Thanks.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 29, 2013 at 1:58am

Annie, I didn't know that about Brussel Sprouts. Good idea

Notice the spiral development of sprouts, much as a pineapple twist. 

Comment by Annie Thomas on May 28, 2013 at 9:11pm

I've tried broccoli a few times, but only had luck once.  It was worth trying again!  My daughter said that it tasted like broccoli, only much better. ;-)  A friend told me to be careful when I cut it and to leave a little floret or two behind.  These will grow into new crowns in a matter of days!  Good luck.  I'm going to try Brussels sprouts in my fall planting, so I'll look forward to Spuds' updates too.

 

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