Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

Permaculture, John D. Liu

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 3. 8 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W Nov 3. 2 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 2. 4 Replies

A texas garden I never thought I would see!

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Oct 30. 4 Replies

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Oct 29. 10 Replies

What the heck is hugelkultur? How does it save water?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Oct 29. 8 Replies

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Comment by Daniel W on May 10, 2013 at 3:51pm
Joan, you take care as well. Glad you have someone to help out. Dontvbring any hawthorne sprigs into the house!
Comment by Daniel W on May 10, 2013 at 3:08pm
interesting info about hawthorne mythology! It's fun learning that stuff.

Joan my energy is back to usual I think. But there are some times I hit bottom. Nausea is an issue. Trying to hve the right attitude.

second beehive kit is here. Will start on it his weekend.
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 10, 2013 at 10:56am

According to Irish mythology, the Hawthorne is a sacred tree with an interesting dark side: bring a sprig of Hawthorne into the home and someone will die, some say mother will die. 

Irish native Hawthorn ... Crataegus monogyna .. Sceach Gheal

Irish myth + hawthorn tree


Comment by Joan Denoo on May 10, 2013 at 9:55am

Exactly! All thos qulities are why I liked it so much. Like the poplar, the roots run far and wide, even into neighbors' yards. Bees and birds love it for the blossoms and fruits; The bees provide a nice sound at breakfast time when I have breakfast in the garden. It won't be easy to clean up the broken branches, and well worth the effort. 

How is yor energy, Daniel? Mine is utterly gone. My son picks up the slack, sometimes cheerfully. 

Oh, I can grab a photo because the "Link, photo movie, Text window" are here. They sometimes don't appear. Do you have that situation or is it my computer wanting to retire.  

Washington Hawthorne/bird feeding station 2011

Comment by Daniel W on May 10, 2013 at 9:06am

Another link from Washington State (King County) - now I'm certain you are right!  Looks like they are an introduced species here.  They consider this tree a weed.  However, short of any eradication efforts, I'll keep them.  They provide land stabilization near the creek, privacy, bird food, and fill a gap for pollen and nectar for honey bees.  


Image from wikipedia  looks just like it.  Thank you again!

File:Common hawthorn.jpg

Comment by Daniel W on May 10, 2013 at 8:58am

Chris and Joan, thank you for the identification!  I think you are right.  OSU link on Hawthorn species.   I havent looked for thorns yet.  It's mixed with blackberry so I don't venture into the thicket.  There are a lot of broken branches, which goes along with trees breaking in storms.

I will watch for berries this summer.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 10, 2013 at 1:42am

Sentient, I don't know how to get my photo over here, but if you go to my post, Thumbnail

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 10, 2013 at 1:06am
I think you might be right, Chris. It looks like Hawthorn to me. When I was in Ireland, they were in bloom, a white blossom, and grew along hedgerows between pastures of sheep. They have needles and the tree is very brittle.
On returning home, I bought a Washington Hawthorn, with white blossoms and the birds loved it. The thorns were terrible, the berries and blossoms outstanding, and in one wind storm, half the tree fell and we tried to save it by bolting it together. It lasted about five years and then the whole tree broke and it is now my birdfeeder. Sprouds come up all around the ground with new trees and I just cut the roots. I don't have the energy to clean up after a fragile tree. But I do miss it, especially now, just before peonies bloom, the Hawthorn put on an elegant show.
Comment by Plinius on May 10, 2013 at 12:55am

I think a hawthorn. I cannot see much of the leaves but it's the right time. Hawthorn has got some family members that look almost the same, so if it isn't the one, it's the other...

Comment by Daniel W on May 9, 2013 at 9:39pm

Hi all,

Any ideas as to identity of this tree?  I don't know.  It reminds me of spirea, but much bigger.  There is a row of them on a neglected area on my property.  They are near a creek that runs in fall/winter/spring, dry in summer.  I think I see them growing wild in fence rows, so either native or feral.  These reach about 30 feet tall, have bark like cherries.  Wild, sweet, and tart cherry trees are all finished blooming here.  Tart cherries just barely.  This mystery tree just started blooming.  i'm not aware of fruit but might not have noticed last year.  The flowers have a musty/sweet scent, sort of like Bradford pear, but fruiting pears here are long since finished blooming.


Bees like the flowers, which is good. We seem to be in a minor nectar and pollen low until something else takes over.


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