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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 169
Latest Activity: 5 hours ago

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Yacouba Sawadogo, 'the man who stopped the desert'

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith 5 hours ago. 1 Reply

Stressed Bees

Started by Patricia. Last reply by Patricia Feb 12. 2 Replies

Permaculture U. of Mass

Started by Joan Denoo Jan 16. 0 Replies

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry Dec 26, 2014. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 25, 2014. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10, 2014. 3 Replies

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Comment by Randall Smith on September 20, 2013 at 7:33am

A blender is one thing I don't have--at least a nice big one. Two former wives hauled them off. I've managed for 14 years without one. Like Patricia, I use a small coffee grinder. Flax seeds need to be ground (up).  

Had my "season's first" sweet potato last night. Yum yum! I forgot how much better they taste when first gathered. They lose something after 6 months in storage. 

I've been researching Greek food for my trip (in two days). I've got a list, but I doubt if it'll do much good. Trial and error, my motto.

Comment by Daniel W on September 18, 2013 at 6:55pm

i need to add a warning about using the Magic Bullet with hot foods, like making a cream soup.  I used to use the large sealed container, but a few times the hot soup leaked out of the seal.  So I started using the blender-shaped attachment.

That has still sprayed hot soup from the top.  I know that because I just made some, and it did.  So I cover it with a towel before blending. It is probably still hazardous for that purpose.  I have to say, I can't recommend using it for hot soups.

Comment by Daniel W on September 18, 2013 at 6:12pm

Magic bullet is just a blender with various fittings and containers.  I grind my own coffee beans, and use the small container and low cutting blade for that.  The 2-cup size container, use frequently for fruit smoothies.  It's easy to use and when they are not grinding right I pull it off and shake and put it back on.  Easy.  I also use the larger container to make crepe batter.  Very easy.  It has a fitting that is like a conventional blender.  I use that to make hot blended soup, like cream of broccoli or cream of tomato - which are soy, not cream based, because I use soft tofu instead of cream.

It's one of my favorite gadgets.  You could do it all with a conventional blender, but I like the different fittings.

There is also a "Ninja" that some people like but I haven't used it.

Before I had the Magic Bullet, I didn't make smoothies.  After, I made them regularly.  If I don't use my own frozen fruit, I buy the packs in the freezer section of the grocery store and use those.

I would like to come up with an alternative to V8 but have not found a recipe.  It's possible I won't find one.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 18, 2013 at 5:27pm

Sentient, how good is that "Magic Bullet Blender"?  That's the one advertised on TV, isn't it?  I'm always suspicious of things advertised on TV.

Comment by Chad Kreutzer on September 17, 2013 at 2:43pm

Finally a reasoned non "monsantodidit" explanation.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 17, 2013 at 1:48pm
Comment by Daniel W on September 17, 2013 at 10:39am

Last night I stopped at Fred Meyer for groceries, after work.  They had bulbs out for fall planting.  I bought several varieties of narcissus - supposedly deer and rabbit resistant.  Mostly the smaller types so they don't fall over easily.  I want to plant them around the edges of some of the raised beds, and in the mulch circles around some trees. 

Narcissus "Minnow"

I love planting the fall bulbs.

Narcissus "Jetfire"

Also a bearded iris rhizome.  I don't know why I bought that - it's a variety I already have.  I just love planting the dried out looking things and watching them settle in and rejuvenate and grow.  The variety is a near-black midnight-blue called "Before the Storm". 

The pics are from web searches.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 15, 2013 at 1:24pm

Chris, I feel as strongly as you and I suspect many women who came into the world with harsh or superstitious beliefs found it impossible to thrive in such environments and we had to build our strengths and knowledge to be able to reject such nonsense. 

I count myself as one of the lucky ones who escaped, finding my mind too precious to waste on values that dehumanize. 

I love your comment!

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 15, 2013 at 1:19pm

Daniel, your photo of your boxed garden is gorgeous! A joy to behold! I just get goose bumps when I think of you in your garden and enjoying the pleasure of growing things. Glad your partner has an appetite for good flavors. 

Love your story of the butchers and meat eaters in your family and you being "a mix up at the hospital". 

I sent your use of mole hills for access to more minerals for your box beds to my son-in-law, Larry, who is starting to garden this year. He is new to it and plans to use fish tanks as a source of water for the boxes he built this summer. He likes to experiment and we have great fun thinking up ways to engineer the whole process. He has mole hills that drive him crazy and maybe reading your account of their value, he may be able to reframe his experience into opportunity. 

I am surprised honey bees don't go to the Buddleias. Even though they can look scraggly, I love the blossoms. Mine died out, probably from hard freezes. 

I agree, not only should religion be challenged, it needs to be charged with crimes against children and adults and have Warning Notices " put on the doors, and tattooed onto foreheads of believers. Well, that may be a bit much.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 15, 2013 at 12:35pm

Daniel, you probably have done the same search as I, and here is what I found:

Grow Your Best Fall Garden Vegetables: What, When and How

" In colder climates it’s prime time to sow carrots, rutabagas, and turnips to harvest in the fall. Filling space vacated by spring crops with summer-sown vegetables will keep your garden productive well into fall, and even winter."

~ published August/September 2009


"Turnips are easy to grow if sown in the proper season. They mature in two months and may be planted either in the spring, late summer or fall for roots or greens. The spring crop is planted for early summer use. The fall crop, which is usually larger and of higher quality, is often stored for winter use."

Also includes varieties list

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