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Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Squirrels.
bees.
Cheap gardening.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

Compost

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky on Monday. 8 Replies

Potatoes. Growing the perfect food.

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Sentient Biped Oct 11. 12 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sky God Oct 10. 3 Replies

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 10. 9 Replies

Insectary

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Annie Thomas Oct 3. 10 Replies

Bunga Bakawali or Tan Hua (Epiphyllum oxypetallum)

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 21. 13 Replies

"Healthy Soil Microbes / Healthy People"

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 20. 26 Replies

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Comment by Patricia on May 29, 2013 at 6:22pm

My husband has always had good broccoli, cauliflower, tomatoes, peas, green beans, cukes. Tired celery once & it was delicious, but far too much work. He's trying muskmelons & bell peppers this year.

Comment by Sentient Biped on May 29, 2013 at 4:31pm

Joan, beautiful pictures!

So observant regarding how the spiraling pattern resembles the golden mean.

If my broccoli doesn't work out, I'll feed the leaves to the chickens.  Then I get to eat it as eggs.  

Spud, Chinese chives have a more garlic flavor.  They are also called garlic chives.  They are not as delicate texture as regular chives.

My bok choy went to flowers before there was enough bok choy to eat.  I was going to pull that out for chicken food, but honeybees are all over the flowers, so they must like them.

The other brassicas are also failing to do much.  Maybe wrong time or wrong climate.  

I'm planting swiss chard again.  Maybe it will do better.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 29, 2013 at 9:54am

The Golden Mean in plants

Plants and Fibonacci Numbers

A Fibonacci number

1 + 1 =  2

1 +  2 = 3

2 +  3 =  5

3 +  5 =  8 

5 +  8 = 13

etc. 

Fibonacci numbers 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 29, 2013 at 9:35am

The brassicas need a head start in growing. I start my seeds sometime around March 15, the Ides of March (The Ides of March was just another date on the Roman calendar until the fateful day in 44 B.C. when Julius Caesar was assassinated.)

In my climate, I don't set the seedlings into the garden until I harden them off, and then plant outside on June 1. We have been known to have a killing frost as late as June 16. The brassicas can withstand that temperature, as can peas, however other tender plants cannot, such as beans or tomatoes. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 29, 2013 at 6:18am

Sentient, I'm going to try broccoli this fall or maybe next year.   I don't yet know when to plant it, but I'll try to remember Annie's tip about leaving some to grow more.  I tried that with my cauliflower last year but it didn't work with that.  Does the Chinese chives taste different?

I probably started the Brussels Sprouts too late this spring.  If so, I'll try some this fall.

Those sprouts do have a twist Joan!  Thanks.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 29, 2013 at 1:58am

Annie, I didn't know that about Brussel Sprouts. Good idea

Notice the spiral development of sprouts, much as a pineapple twist. 

Comment by Annie Thomas on May 28, 2013 at 9:11pm

I've tried broccoli a few times, but only had luck once.  It was worth trying again!  My daughter said that it tasted like broccoli, only much better. ;-)  A friend told me to be careful when I cut it and to leave a little floret or two behind.  These will grow into new crowns in a matter of days!  Good luck.  I'm going to try Brussels sprouts in my fall planting, so I'll look forward to Spuds' updates too.

Comment by Sentient Biped on May 28, 2013 at 7:14pm

Spud, I love Brussels sprouts, but have never grown them.  Please keep us updated!  

I am growing broccoli for the first time this year.  It's looking good so far.  The heads are small - I guess they will grow larger.

Chives are a favorite for me.  They fit with my bee obsession.  Bumblebees and honey bees like them.  Ditto for Chinese chives - white flower, blooms later.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 28, 2013 at 5:09pm

Thanks for your comments and suggestions Joan.

I've forgotten that Brussels Sprouts had a pretty fractel pattern, but I do find interest and beauty in everything I grow.  

As much as I like the taste of fresh from the garden produce, and with my limited growing space, I don't grow flowers, but my edibles are still beautiful to my eye.  Most of them have pretty flowers also.  A case in point is my chives that are just starting to bloom:

Comment by Sentient Biped on May 28, 2013 at 4:46pm

I've never grown watermelon either.  Last winter I got over-enthusiastic and ordered seeds of an Idaho variety - Blacktail Mountain -  that is claimed to do well in short cool summer areas.  Similar for a Minnesota cantaloupe - small melon, plant can be grown in containers ("Minnesota Midget") .  Just need to prepare a place to plant them....  At some point, I'll be done building raised beds and can relax more.  The "big plan" is for 2 or 3 more raised beds then I'm done with infrastructure.

For mildew and aphids both, I've had good success with neem oil.   It works great on roses and grapes, any way.

Spud the container is a great concept!  Will have to give it a try.

Annie, great concept with the Okra.  I do like in in a soup or stew or fried....   A couple of other varieties are listed in Seed Savers as tolerant of cool short summers.  The package states ready in 50 to 64 days.  If it takes 50% or 70% longer, I might still get some.  Never know without trying!  Similar for the cantaloupe, 60-75 days, developed for Northern gardening.

 

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