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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Squirrels.
bees.
Cheap gardening.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

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Compost

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky on Monday. 8 Replies

Potatoes. Growing the perfect food.

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Sentient Biped Oct 11. 12 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sky God Oct 10. 3 Replies

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 10. 9 Replies

Insectary

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Annie Thomas Oct 3. 10 Replies

Bunga Bakawali or Tan Hua (Epiphyllum oxypetallum)

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 21. 13 Replies

"Healthy Soil Microbes / Healthy People"

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 20. 26 Replies

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 30, 2013 at 10:24pm

Sentient, Borage is a wonderful plant. The bees and hummingbirds visit, huge bumble bees love it. it has a delightful blue flower. When it goes to seed in the fall, just pull the plant,  give it a good shake where you want next year's growth, compost the plant and let nature take over. It grows about two feet wide and high, on somewhat flimsy stems. They flop over in a rain storm. 

It is a perfect plant for a natural setting. If the plants get messy looking, just yank them out, compost them, and save at least one growing for seed stock. 

Comment by Sentient Biped on May 30, 2013 at 9:22pm

Joan, I have some borage seeds, just need to find a place to plant it.  I think it grows pretty large.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 30, 2013 at 11:54am

I Googled "hot pepper to stop vermin eating brassicas"

Organic Gardening- Natural Pest Prevention and Control

here is one plant to use as companion plant, and there many others offered. 

  • Borage is a great companion for tomatoes and cabbage as it repels both tomato horn worm and cabbage moths. It also helps strawberries and is beneficial to practically everything in the garden. I plant throughout.
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 30, 2013 at 11:48am

Here is a link I found by Googling, "Brassicas, something eating leaves."

IDigMyGarden Forums > Squashing Pests & Problems > Brassi...

It mentions rabbits, slugs, mice, aphids, gophers, rats. 

The remedies offered: cats, pet snakes, cam corder, motion detector sprinkler, and others. 

Comment by Randall Smith on May 30, 2013 at 7:05am

Dang rabbits! They have a nose--then taste--for brassicas. My cauliflower starts totally disappeared, Br. sprouts and broc. defoliated. I've fenced, garlic sprayed, covered--all to no avail. Next is either a dog (who will tear up the garden) or a gun (not). Guess I'll just have to accept the inevitable. 

Comment by Sentient Biped on May 29, 2013 at 9:27pm

Patricia, that's great!  You are way further north than I am.  So maybe I can replicate some of your success!  

Does he have the peppers and muskmelons in the ground yet?  I planted peppers in a barrel 3 weeks ago - warmer - and some in a raised bed last week.  Muskmelons are just getting started.

Comment by Sentient Biped on May 29, 2013 at 4:31pm

Joan, beautiful pictures!

So observant regarding how the spiraling pattern resembles the golden mean.

If my broccoli doesn't work out, I'll feed the leaves to the chickens.  Then I get to eat it as eggs.  

Spud, Chinese chives have a more garlic flavor.  They are also called garlic chives.  They are not as delicate texture as regular chives.

My bok choy went to flowers before there was enough bok choy to eat.  I was going to pull that out for chicken food, but honeybees are all over the flowers, so they must like them.

The other brassicas are also failing to do much.  Maybe wrong time or wrong climate.  

I'm planting swiss chard again.  Maybe it will do better.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 29, 2013 at 9:54am

The Golden Mean in plants

Plants and Fibonacci Numbers

A Fibonacci number

1 + 1 =  2

1 +  2 = 3

2 +  3 =  5

3 +  5 =  8 

5 +  8 = 13

etc. 

Fibonacci numbers 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 29, 2013 at 9:35am

The brassicas need a head start in growing. I start my seeds sometime around March 15, the Ides of March (The Ides of March was just another date on the Roman calendar until the fateful day in 44 B.C. when Julius Caesar was assassinated.)

In my climate, I don't set the seedlings into the garden until I harden them off, and then plant outside on June 1. We have been known to have a killing frost as late as June 16. The brassicas can withstand that temperature, as can peas, however other tender plants cannot, such as beans or tomatoes. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 29, 2013 at 6:18am

Sentient, I'm going to try broccoli this fall or maybe next year.   I don't yet know when to plant it, but I'll try to remember Annie's tip about leaving some to grow more.  I tried that with my cauliflower last year but it didn't work with that.  Does the Chinese chives taste different?

I probably started the Brussels Sprouts too late this spring.  If so, I'll try some this fall.

Those sprouts do have a twist Joan!  Thanks.

 

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