Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky on Monday. 8 Replies

Potatoes. Growing the perfect food.

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Sentient Biped Oct 11. 12 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sky God Oct 10. 3 Replies

Backyard Organic Garden

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Bunga Bakawali or Tan Hua (Epiphyllum oxypetallum)

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 21. 13 Replies

"Healthy Soil Microbes / Healthy People"

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 20. 26 Replies

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Comment by Idaho Spud on July 26, 2013 at 9:31am

Joan, I thought my post was a little confusing about growing watermelon in pots.  

I meant that I had planted seeds in pots for later transplant to the garden when they were of the right size.  However, it took me so long to modify my soil that they have grown much too large in the pots and even started producing fruit.

I will transplant them to the garden on Sunday or Monday and see what happens.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 26, 2013 at 8:56am
Sentient, your fruit plate looks so fresh, You have planned well.

Chris, I am impressed with your variety and quantity in your small roof garden. I enjoy your posts.

Spud, frost coming so soon? Oh dear, the summer goes so fast. I look forward to hearing how your melons turn out. I've never tried to grow them in pots and am anxious to learn how that works. My farming families grew theirs on the barn manure-straw heap outside the barn doors. The melons had plenty of rich nutrients and, they dedicated hoses to the heaps.

Randall, your yields look great, Some fine eating awaits you. Do you plan on preserving beans and tomatoes? Your neighbors don't know what they are missing with your fresh grown produce.

As a girl, one of our major chores of the year was growing and preserving foods. Today's shoppers miss the fine flavors from carefully grown food with lots of good nutrition in healthy soil.

There are several huge slugs that seem to favor one sunflower volunteer from my bird feeder station and they ate every leaf on the poor thing. I spread diatomacious earth around it and it is now getting some leaves. It is only about 16" tall while the other sunflowers are 6' tall.

Organic Gardening - Pest Control
Comment by Randall Smith on July 26, 2013 at 6:37am

As soon as I "hang up" here, I'm freezing sweet corn (off the cob). It's been a banner year. I put 2 doz ears on a table by the road, to sell for $4/doz, but I didn't have one single buyer in 2 days. There must be a glut out there in Hoosier land. Or people are too much in a hurry to stop. More for me to freeze.

Of course, green beans, zuc., tomatoes, kale, etc. are coming on like gangbusters. Brocolli, too! Yum. The fruit trees are so loaded, I'm sure to lose limbs--nature's way of pruning (I don't). One week to peaches and yellow transparent apples. Oh what fun this time of year is!

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 26, 2013 at 6:10am

Sentient, how are your watermelon doing?

I can see the light at the end of the ground-modifying tunnel.  I should be through Sunday and will plant the rest of my poor root bound plants in pots just in case the frost comes late this year.

There are two 4-inch watermelon and one 5-inch muskmelon growing on the potted plants.  I don't expect much from them, but I do have one pot that I planted short season watermelon seed in just 2 weeks ago, so the plant in that pot is just at the right stage for planting in my modified soil.

The long-season watermelon that I planted quite a while ago is looking great.  It has vines going everywhere, the longest is 10 feet.  There are a few half-inch melons and one 2-inch.

Frost will be here in 6 to 9 weeks, so I'm not getting my hopes up for watermelon, but I've been eating raspberries, and the blackberries are just starting to ripen.

Comment by Plinius on July 26, 2013 at 1:02am

Looks delicious, Sentient!

Here we still have high temperatures - over 30° - about 86° for you - and with the high humidity I constantly think of fleeing North. Instead I water my garden boxes. Everything is growing like mad and the harvest so far is quite something for a tiny roof garden:

50 grms of peas

100 grms of marrowfat peas

1 meal of lettuce for the two of us

plenty of garlic, rosemary, parsley, lemon balm and chives

1 (one) horsebean 

And there's more to come! I'm getting rid of some small shrubs that want to expand, so there'll be more room for vegetables.

And now I'll continue my rain dance, the thunderstorm I heard yesterday missed my town, but perhaps we'll be lucky today.


Comment by Idaho Spud on July 25, 2013 at 5:06pm

Looks yummy Sentient.

Comment by Sentient Biped on July 25, 2013 at 5:03pm

Fresh Today.

Comment by Sentient Biped on July 25, 2013 at 9:20am


Thanks for the recipe!  If I get past eating them off the tree I'll have to try that!

How's the gardening everyone?

Here we have ripe plums,  a few ripe figs.  Some swiss chard.  Planted some young fig trees in the ground, should have first small crop  next year if all goes well.   Tomatoes have a few almost-ripe fruits.  Occasional mulberries - my favorite, when I am eating them.  Otherwise figs are my favorite when eating them.  And tomatoes.  And plums.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 22, 2013 at 10:49am
Comment by Sentient Biped on July 21, 2013 at 5:23pm

Randall, marigolds are supposed to help in a variety of ways, attract beneficial insects, repel  some harmful ones, and some varieties are supposed to have a toxic effect on some nematodes.  I planted marigold seeds along the edges of a couple of raised beds.  Also sweet alyssum seeds to attract beneficial insects.  Even if it doesn't work, they look nice and they are fun to raise from seeds and cheap.

Lillie, there is quite a lot of literature regarding translocation of minerals among plants via mycorhizzal fungi associated with roots.  It's hard to know how far to go with that.  If some plants excrete substances, that are translocated by fungi and have effects on other plants - even without cognition, is that communication?  We could call it that.  As a microbiologist I studied effects that bacterial species have on one another in certain consortia - some giving off substances that influence others.  Again, it's not cognitive communication, but some do biochemical things that affect others. 


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