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Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston 8 hours ago. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

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Comment by Joan Denoo on October 6, 2013 at 11:56pm
Chris, do you have lizards in The Netherlands?
Comment by Joan Denoo on October 6, 2013 at 11:24pm

Chris, well that exhausts my ideas. I surely hope you find why they didn't grow and let us know. Loved your description of Luna and birds. Thanks for the beets/potato recipe. It sounds delicious and colorful. 

If slugs are the cause of disappearing beets, perhaps a dusting of diatomaceous earth will solve that problem. 

Slug Stoppers Slugs can do a lot of damage to tender plants. Learn ...

"Diatomaceous earth (DE).
After testing all kinds of slug barriers, Jeff Gillman, author of The Truth about Garden Remedies and professor of horticulture at the University of Minnesota, concluded that DE is the most reliable. "DE is a white powder made from the fossilized remains of diatoms, one-celled algae that have a skeleton made of silicon," Gillman says. "To a slithering slug, this lethal powder is extremely sharp and cuts their undersides, causing dehydration." DE does have to be replenished each time it rains, making it a better choice for climates where it does not rain frequently. (Note: Buy only untreated diatomaceous earth formulated for garden use, and wear a dust mask when applying it. DE made for swimming pools is chemically altered and not suitable for use in any garden, much less an organic one.)
You can buy bags of Diatomaceous earth at Gardener's Supply or Planet Natural.

I also wrote to my favorite gardener and asked her. I will let you know when I hear from her. 

Comment by Plinius on October 6, 2013 at 10:45pm

Thinking again:

It's not birds - the rucola and lettuce were left untouched.       Mice - not likely because of the cats. Moles - never seen them in concrete. But on top of the concrete are big loose tiles, far too heavy to lift, so I can only guess what lives beneath. Spiders, wood lice, bugs and creepy-crawlies and what do THEY eat?

Comment by Plinius on October 6, 2013 at 10:29pm

Beets - I like the smell of earth!

I have no idea what ate the young beetplants - the same something that ate Spud's or snails perhaps. It cannot be birds; my Luna is fierce enough to attack a crow.

My favorite beetroot recipe:

boiled beetroots, cooled down and diced

boiled potatoes, cold, diced (can be left out)

some mature goat's cheese, diced

a small onion, finely chopped

Mix, and make a dressing from some pesto, black pepper, olive oil and lemon juice. Mix and serve.

Comment by Daniel W on October 6, 2013 at 9:16pm

Beets... I want to like them !  But there's something about beet flavor, I can't seem to adapt to!

This grape has been giving me a fall show.  Most of my grapes' leaves just turn brown in the fall.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 6, 2013 at 1:45pm
Spud, I am with Patricia in liking pickled beets. They are a great favorite of mine, and they are so pretty on a plate of food. A treat for the eye and taste buds.
I would guess that starting beets in pots will not solve the problem. This is just a hunch, It is worth a try, however. My first option would be to protect them with a row cover.
You might try a row of radishes or other fast growing leaf plant, i.e. lettuce, and see if birds eat them. They love fresh greens. If birds peck at them when they are very young and before roots become too strong, the plant will lift out of the ground.
Beets go on my seed list for next spring.
We had the fourth straight day of light frost on the garage roof but not on tomatoes, yet.
Comment by Joan Denoo on October 6, 2013 at 1:33pm
Chris, I like your comments of your harvest and strange year. I have not a clue why your beets didn't grow. Do you have mice on your roof garden? Perhaps they nibble them, although that is just a guess. The only other thing I could imagine is moles, but it is highly unlikely that you would be bothered with them. What about crows, or other birds that like fresh greens? If that is the case, a light covering would protect them. Just another guess.
Beet greens are one of my favorite vegetables. I cut bacon into small pieces, cook it and set aside to drain. I add chopped onions to the bacon grease and lightly brown them. Set aside to drain. Pour off most of the fat, add a bit of sugar and brown ever so lightly, add the greens, bacon and onions, and pour in a splash of vinegar. I do the same with Swiss chard, turnip greens and spinach.
Comment by Plinius on October 6, 2013 at 7:41am

I didn't taste them, Spud, the packet said roots, not chards. But it's an idea, I'll try them this week. And that same something ate a lot of young beetroots here, it must be a traveller. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 6, 2013 at 7:22am

Chris, How does the yellow beet leaves taste?  

I like to grow beets just for the greens because I very much like the flavor.  The flavor of the roots don't do much for me, so I can take them or leave them.

I sowed a large row of beets this spring, but something ate them  all when they were 0.4 inch high.  Next year, I'll start them in pots and plant them in the garden when they are larger.

Comment by Plinius on October 6, 2013 at 12:12am

Those melons look good!

I found three tomatoes, stil green. I'm not sure about the right time to harvest, but the temperature is going down so I put them on a sunny window sill to ripen.

I sowed beetroots a few times this year. Most young plants disappeared without a trace but a white variety developed into strong healthy plants - and that's all they did! Not one beetroot! I'm still wondering what I did wrong.

Harvested and froze a lot of herbs, and had garlic from my roof garden the whole summer.

But it was a strange year: we had an unusually cold spring and after that everything happened two months late. The lime trees have just dropped their seeds and I I have gor a white phlox still blooming - I've never seen this in October!

 

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