Godless in the garden

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Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky Oct 19. 8 Replies

Potatoes. Growing the perfect food.

Started by Daniel W (Sentient Biped). Last reply by Daniel W (Sentient Biped) Oct 11. 12 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sky God Oct 10. 3 Replies

Backyard Organic Garden

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Bunga Bakawali or Tan Hua (Epiphyllum oxypetallum)

Started by Daniel W (Sentient Biped). Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 21. 13 Replies

"Healthy Soil Microbes / Healthy People"

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Comment by Daniel W (Sentient Biped) on September 22, 2013 at 3:36pm

Oh -

Patricia, this was the first time I've grown melons.  I planted seeds in containers in late spring, and put them in the onion / garlic bed after harvesting those in June.

I planted 3 seeds of each type and let them all grow.  There were the cantaloupes, a watermelon called "Blacktail Mountain" developed in Idaho, and a small yellow watermelon.

I should plant them earlier next year.  The watermelons didn't do much, but one of the Blacktail Mountain melons is a few pounds and looks like it's almost ripe.  The cantaloupes have several more on the plants.  Lesson for next year, is to plant a few more plants.  Maybe a half dozen. or so.  And earlier, maybe with cloches.

Comment by Daniel W (Sentient Biped) on September 22, 2013 at 3:32pm

Joan, thanks for posting the daffodil picture.  Something to look forward to.

I like to plant in fall and winter when I can.  It's kind of like putting a pie in the oven.  During the rainy and cold season, the plants are "baking" in the sense they are growing roots and in some cases growing leaves  - some bulbs - and the buds are gearing up their anatomy for flowers and leaves, to arrive in Spring.  So winter is not just about dormancy, it's about a different kind of gardening.

Planted more bulbs this weekend, with that idea in mind.  Also the multiplier onions.  Some, planted a week ago, are showing new growth.  Also radish seeds and cilantro seeds.  But I don't know if those will produce anything before frost.

Spud, maybe I'll ask for a Braun for Xmas present.  It would be safer for hot stuff, than what I'm using. 

Patricia, it's so great to have neighbors to share with.  I also have some wastage of some things, but would like to have some others home grown / organic.    None of my neighbors garden.  I've taken over fresh eggs, figs, apples, rhubarb.  But it feels kind of one sided.

Ruth, your violet adventure is interesting.  They must be very well adapted to your garden bed.   I intentionally planted violets, bringing some from my parents' midwestern yard.  They grew much bigger than the local ones, nice blue, but slugs ate them all.  The local ones are slower growing, and smaller, but slugs don't eat them.  I wanted them as a simple ground cover in the rose bed.  They are pretty good for that.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 22, 2013 at 12:20pm

Joan, I liked the dancing with the daffodils picture, and saved it.  Sometimes it feels like I dance with my plants.

I didn't know violets were that invasive, but I've never grown them.  My peppermint is the only invasive thing I've got, but it's not too bad so far.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 22, 2013 at 12:13pm

Patricia, congratulation on the 5 melons.   I used to share the cherries from my 4 trees with the neighbors until the fruit flies found them.  Almost no one wants to eat cherries with fruit fly maggots in them!

If my watermelons taste good, I may share some with neighbors if any act interested.  So far, only the mailman and a few people that walk or drive down the alley have shown interested in them.

I have 3 Moon & Stars now, from 3 to 20 pounds, and 2 Sugar Babies, from 0.5 to 2 pounds.  Two or three weeks ago the Moon & Stars vines started growing about 6 more.  I cut 5 off so it would hopefully put more energy into the 2 large ones, and also because it's doubtful they would have ripened with the cold weather.  

I didn't have the heart to cut the first one off (it's now 3 pounds), so I'll see how it does.  The weather has been getting colder for about 3 weeks now, but no frost yet.  The coldest temperature so far was 38 F a few days ago.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 22, 2013 at 11:55am

Congratulations on your first melon Sentient.  Glad to hear the midget melon tastes very good, to you and the chickens.

My Braun blender doesn't spray unless I get carried-away and pull it up where the blade is at the top of the liquid.  

Funny thing:  I put a capital U in Braun in my last post because I thought that's the way they did it, but I was wrong.  They capitalize the whole thing, but make the A much larger (not the U).  They also make the N like nobody else.   Same way they do it on my electric shavers.  Well, I'll just spell it Braun from now on.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 21, 2013 at 11:53pm

Ruth, I have the same experience. Cary worked all spring to get them out of a border, even using a garden sieve to get the roots out of the soil. He even used Roundup - a NoNo in my garden. They have returned with a vengeance. Tiny seeds spread as well as the roots. Good luck on your effort. Birds spread the seeds as well. 

Our next strategy is to put a heavy back plastic over the area, making sure no sunlight gets to them; also withhold water. That should sterilize the soil killing everything under it. 

I welcome any other suggestions. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on September 21, 2013 at 10:39pm

This Spring one wild violet came up in my front garden from seed. I've had them in the shady back garden with no problems, so I let it bloom and grow. Now I have a mat of violet plants covering a fifth of the raised bed, going up a small wall and growing down into the holes between stones of the lower wall as well. I had no idea they spread so rapidly from roots in sunny areas. Not looking forward to all the work of digging them out. *head slap*

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 21, 2013 at 9:15pm

Comment by Daniel W (Sentient Biped) on September 21, 2013 at 8:01pm

Planted today.  Bulbs give me something to look forward to in Spring.  Some start growing in Feb - daffodils and hyacinths - which gives me a sense of hope and optimism.   All of these were listed as deer resistant.  



Over the years, I may have planted hundreds of bulbs. Some naturalize well, others die out. Survival of the fittest. Evolution in action.

Comment by Daniel W (Sentient Biped) on September 21, 2013 at 4:29pm

Picked a good crop of ripe figs. Some fermented on the tree - like wine. A big yellow bell pepper. Some Thai peppers. A few tomatoes. This melon - the first ever for me. Variety is called "Minnesota Midget", from a heritage seed source - I think it was seed savers. It was very good, tasted like it was intended. And the chickens loved the seeds.


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