Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
What's your gardening style?
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Wild Parsnip - It can burn skin.
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Wednesday. 2 Replies

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo on Tuesday. 0 Replies

Sugar Baby

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Aug 24. 11 Replies

Evans Bali cherry

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Aug 24. 4 Replies


Started by Čenek Sekavec. Last reply by Idaho Spud Aug 23. 4 Replies

Some pictures from my garden

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 26. 7 Replies

The Next Green Revolution May Rely on Microbes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sentient Biped Jun 30. 2 Replies

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Comment by Patricia on September 7, 2013 at 6:30pm

A success!!!!! First time ever!!!!!

Comment by Plinius on September 5, 2013 at 9:56am

buy a tree to mark 6 months after cancer diagnosis


I admire such an attitude, Sentient!

Comment by Randall Smith on September 5, 2013 at 7:35am

I could sure use some of your rains! It's been a month since we've had any. My downspout rain barrels are empty. My fall plantings of lettuce, peas, and radishes are faring poorly. My acorn squash succumbed to beetles and borers. Sweet corn season over--but what a great season it was!!

I drove a tractor for 6 hours yest. while two people sitting behind me stuck 8000 strawberry plants in the ground. That was for my son-in-law's vegetable farm (Silverthorn-farm.com). If I'm not helping them out directly, I'm babysitting. 

I've just about got all my winter's wood cut, split, and stacked. Actually, I'm working on next winter's supply. I want to be prepared in case something happens to disable me. I think of Joan and Daniel's health issues. Speaking of which, I hope you're both "hanging in there". And Spud, keep up the "improved health" battle. I like your positive attitude. Wish I had more time to continue.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 5, 2013 at 6:25am

While I'm complaining, I should do it right and mention that besides 6 inches, half of the garden was flooded for about 6 hours the first time and about 1/4 for 2 hours the second time.

However, I know it probably won't happen again for many years, and my garden will do amazing things most of the time, giving me lots of good food.

I've been eating volunteer cherry tomatoes on a regular basis for 3 weeks now, and it looks like I should be able to eat a few sprigs of asparagus next year.  Asparagus is a taste treat I enjoy quite a bit.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 5, 2013 at 6:12am

Sentient, I love thunderstorms also, except for this year.  I still found some amazement and enjoyment in the power of the things, but I'm concerned for my garden.  That much at once is probably not good for it.  6 inches is half of the average yearly total in 11 days!  

That much at once is unprecedented.  We usually get about 0.7 inch/month during the summer and fall.

How much do you get?

Comment by Sentient Biped on September 4, 2013 at 9:10pm

forgot to attribute -  the ruminant pic also from wikimedia commons.

Comment by Sentient Biped on September 4, 2013 at 9:09pm


I love thunderstorms. Saving the water is great. I should do that too.

Today I bought a tree to mark 6 months after cancer diagnosis. I like to mark occasions by planting trees. This pic is from Wikimedia website.

File:Sourwood leaves and flowers.jpg

Sourwood—Oxydendrum arboreum

I bought a as a bigger tree - maybe 10 feet tall -  so it would make a show for me sooner. Plus the branches are higher and maybe not looking like a salad bar for bands of marauding ruminants, "Odocoileus hemionus columbianus" - pic below

File:Black-tailed deer.jpg

I did some research on what tree to plant. The flowers of Sourwood (Oxydendrum arboreum) look like "lily of the valley" flowers. They provide a rich source of nectar for honeybees. The tree is somewhat "deer resistant".

I"m looking forward to planting it next weekend. It should not need too much watering. The rainy season is about to commence. Then I'll look forward to it leafing out again next year....

While at the nursery, I saw a 7 foot tall Madrone tree. Madrones are an iffy proposition - often die the first year. But if it grows, it will be cool. So I bought that too, but not to commemorate anything.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 3, 2013 at 6:39pm

Another intense thunderstorm and downpour with some hail.  The roads were flooded again, but not as high as last week.  It appears to be tapering-off and the flood-water is going down.

It didn't take long to fill my new containers.  Have nearly 400 gallons now.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 3, 2013 at 4:32pm

Joan, I loved how you started the preschoolers and others growing good things to eat.  Brought tears to my eyes.

Good idea, keeping track of the first frost date.  I'm going to try to remember to do that.

I remember you saying last winter that you loved that relaxing time of year, and asked us if we agreed.  I didn't respond because I don't like winter anymore.  Most of my life, I've enjoyed doing things indoors during the winter, but for the last decade or two, I've not been able to get myself to exercise, and I put on weight, my blood sugar starts getting in the red, and I feel miserable.

However, with my new-found ambition and control of the amount of food I eat, I'm hopeful I can keep it up this winter.  I've lost 37 pounds of fat in the last 4 months, and feel much better than in the 2 decades before that.  So, I'll probably agree with you this winter.

Oh, I just now hear the rain on the roof again, so I'm going up & out to see how much.  Bought 3 more 32 gallon containers today that were reduced from $15 to $10 each.  Maybe I'll get to use them this afternoon to store more rain water.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 3, 2013 at 1:05pm

Spud, we would make a great team, with our bald heads. I, too, do not like hair on my face or ears or neck and when I shaved my head in support of a friend going through chemo and a bald head, I liked it short so never did let it grow very long. I am happy with that short cut and will continue happily. 

OH! DEAR! maybe it is my house dust that causes the runny nose! I use the excuse that dust is really star dust and I don't want to disturb the universe. Maybe I do want to disturb dust mites. Oh well, I am resilient. 

Glad to hear your melon turned out to taste good, even with its limited grow space. Isn't it wonderful how plants adapt to whatever they have and can still produce. I wonder if it will reproduce from seed? If a hybrid, probably not. 

Yes, I have been feeling much better and grateful to have the hard stuff behind me. No, I don't expect the next protocol to be as difficult. My cousin had radiation for her breast CA several years ago and she said the only side effect was fatigue. The staff at Cancer Care Northwest reported the same expectation. So, this will be easy. I expect it to end on Oct 18. 

My calendar shows that we had a first killing frost on Oct 4, 2012, and on Oct 8, 2011. I turn off my water and have the pipes blown near Oct 1, so my gardening will be done except for the fall clean up. I love that time of year.



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