Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
What's your gardening style?
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Wild Parsnip - It can burn skin.
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sentient Biped Sep 7. 4 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 27. 2 Replies

Sugar Baby

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Aug 24. 11 Replies

Evans Bali cherry

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Aug 24. 4 Replies


Started by Čenek Sekavec. Last reply by Idaho Spud Aug 23. 4 Replies

Some pictures from my garden

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 26. 7 Replies

The Next Green Revolution May Rely on Microbes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sentient Biped Jun 30. 2 Replies

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Comment by Steph S. on November 10, 2013 at 10:26am

Those are cool mushrooms and I love the peppers you got from your garden.

Comment by Sentient Biped on November 10, 2013 at 10:01am

Spud, you can always come and visit the mushrooms  :-)

I think Im an odd person.  When mowing or doing chores, I try to avoid damaging the mushrooms.  I want them to do their thing and live and make spores and then shrivel after doing what they have to do.

Now and then I look into the kits for growing edible fungi.  This should be a good place to do that.  I tried one from Home Depot and they did grow but it was way too expensive for just a few mushrooms.

For some reason it's sideways.  This is the largest of the ginkgo trees I grew from seeds.  A lot of leaves have already fallen.

I like this time of the year, and this time of day.  Fire in fireplace / woodstove.  Dogs watching the fire, with more interest than they look at TV.  Ning sleeping.  Tater tots in the oven.  Drizzling and chilly outside.  Mushrooms growing in the yard :-)  No major chores to do, beyond the usual homework.  Thinking about what seeds to plant in a few months.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 10, 2013 at 9:22am

Sentient, I'm jealous of all the mushrooms at your place, but I was pleased to see some white fungi in the soil I removed from the watermelon site this spring, and put back yesterday.

Just read about the ginkgo biloba tree.  Didn't know it was a tree until I read your posts about them a few months ago.  Amazing how long they've been around, how big they get, how long they live, and how hardy they are.  The leaves are also interesting.

Comment by Plinius on November 10, 2013 at 12:25am

Thanks for the link, Sentient! At last people as mad as I am, people who can watch a video of a tree and be happy!

Comment by Sentient Biped on November 9, 2013 at 3:32pm

Chris, this link is to "The ginkgo pages" kept by Cor Kwant.  I think she's in Holland.  Sorry your's didn't make it!

Comment by Sentient Biped on November 9, 2013 at 3:30pm

Jon, it's an interesting question.  I just added some info to your discussion on mycelia.  I have been using mycorrhiza inoculum when I plant trees and shrubs.  I don't know if it actually does anything.  Plus, the evidence is my soil contains a lot of native fungi, based on the number of mushrooms growing now.  This seems to be their time of year.

I image the soil is full of spores, so all we should need is to include some healthy soil in our raised beds and gardens, to get it started. 

So why do I use an inoculum?  I can't say.  I just do.

That photo shows some little mushrooms growing among bearded iris rhizomes, in a raised bed.  I don't know if those mushrooms originate from the soil, or from spores, or from the inoculum.  They don't seem to hurt the irises.  What it tells me is the bed is populated with some kinds of mycelium even though the bed is less than a year old.

Comment by Plinius on November 9, 2013 at 2:06pm

Your ginkgo looks lovely, Sentient! My seedling didn't survive last winter.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 9, 2013 at 1:22pm

Daniel, Have you been experimenting with mycorrhiza? We had a discussion some time ago, and I did nothing to start using it. This video gives convincing evidence that we benefit in many ways by using fungi. I'll have to find out where to not use it; I've killed far too many of my plants already.

Here is where I am starting my search:


This should keep me busy for a while.  I have a tray and light in my south facing dining room and can experiment through the winter. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 9, 2013 at 12:36pm

Daniel, a lovely harvest. Ning must like spicy foods! Oh, I think you said he is from Schezuan.
Your Ginko looks lovely. Do you have a female? I understand their seeds smell badly. Did your dad know Herman Deege? A lovely memorial.
I am able to eat Gordy's Schezuan regular dishes now, and several have those skinny little red ones.

Comment by Sentient Biped on November 9, 2013 at 12:02pm

From the yard today.

I grew the ginkgo from seed.  My dad collected the seeds from a tree grown by Herman Deege, who taught me that ginkgos were among the oldest species of trees, and lived with the dinosaurs.  Mr. Deege was a POW in Britain during WWI.  I was 15 at the time.  He's long dead.  My Dad collected the seeds from me 16 years ago.  So they are part of my heritage from Herr Deege and from my Dad, and of learning about fossils and evolution.   Ning and I planted them in flowerpots in our Chicago apartment.  We brought the seedlings with us to Washington when we moved here 13 years ago.

The peppers are grown in a half barrel.  That helps them stay warmer and productive in this cool climate.  Ning puts them into stir fries, then is shocked at how hot the stir fry is; then puts them in the next stir fry and is shocked at how that stir fry is, then puts them in the next.....


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