Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
What's your gardening style?
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Wild Parsnip - It can burn skin.
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sentient Biped Sep 7. 4 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 27. 2 Replies

Sugar Baby

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Aug 24. 11 Replies

Evans Bali cherry

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Aug 24. 4 Replies


Started by Čenek Sekavec. Last reply by Idaho Spud Aug 23. 4 Replies

Some pictures from my garden

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 26. 7 Replies

The Next Green Revolution May Rely on Microbes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sentient Biped Jun 30. 2 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 5:46pm

k.h. Good precaution about being careful not to put the bags too close to plants so that water can get to the soil. Great gardening tips here. Thanks to you all. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 5:42pm

Daniel, I like your response to pots and ways to use them in pots and to keep weeds down. It does prevent the problems you list. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 5:39pm

I love, love, love this site. So full of inquiring minds and research skills. I have never herd of pogonip! A perfectly fine word and I like its etymology. 

Thanks Spud!

Comment by k.h. ky on January 31, 2014 at 4:03pm
Sentient, I split the large dog food bags open and use them in my flower beds to keep the weeds down. I put them under the mulch around shrubs too. You just need to be careful not to get them to close to the plants so water can still get to the soil around the tops of them.
Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2014 at 3:52pm

Joan, thanks for the tip about hard water filters.  I've started looking for them.  

I have a house water softener that puts an small amount of salt in the water.  Such a small amount that I can't taste it, so I've thought of trying it on the garden, but haven't yet.

Of course it's been broken for quite a few years.  I don't want to pay to have it repaired, but have been to lazy to try repairing it myself.  Maybe this year.

Comment by Sentient Biped on January 31, 2014 at 3:42pm

Beautiful frozen evergreens!

I don't know about the plastic vs. clay pots.  Things seem to do so well in plastic pots.  They need good drainage.

I think there have been studies showing either can work.

The biggest negative for me with nursery pots is they are black plastic, and absorb the sun's heat.  That can really overheat the soil.  The positive is I have lots sitting around, so they are free.  Also, lightweight.  Easy to get plants out of them, they usually just slide out with minimal root damage. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2014 at 3:34pm

That Ice Fog does make things look attractive, as do all forms of frozen H2O.  Wikipedia says it's called pogonip in the western US.  I've never heard that word.

Freezing fog happens at 32 F or below, Ice Fog or Frozen Fog happens at negative 20 F or below.  Usually negative 30 F or below.

Frog sounds like what it should be called : )

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 2:38pm

Daniel, I like your idea of lining clay pots with plastic. One of the reasons I like clay is that the roots have access to air that plastic prevents. It comes at a cost, however, in that clay dries out very fast so there has to be a source of water constantly or frequently replacing the evaporated water. A task that I don't like, so, automatic watering with timed supply works. It does require equipment and maintenance. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 2:33pm

Spud, you can get in-line-filters for hard water. Whether they work or not, I can't tell you. I use filters at each faucet; I have had mine for probably 15 years and the only way they break is if I leave them undrained when an unexpected freeze comes along. So, I got into the habit of taking them all off on Oct 1 week. 

Rain Bird has a system similar to what I use, so you can get an idea of what to look for. Any good garden supply place has them. I think I paid around $10 each when I bought mine and I use it as a pressure regulator, and mine has the ability to distribute fertilizer through the system without clogging.

With a drip system, you have to be very careful to keep the water pressure correct or you will blow out the hoses very fast. I have had all my soaker hoses for more than 10 years, and though expensive to begin with, and needing repairs on occasion because of accidentally slicing them with a shovel or trowel, or a blow out, they are very easy to repair. I keep a box of parts handy and the tools needed in it so I have everything handy when I need it and don't have to figure out where the right tools are. 

Here is a Rain Bird system:


Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 2:19pm

We have had about two weeks of weather inversion, low hanging fog, freezing temperatures, the trees and everything covered with a very light layer of fallen frozen fog. There must be a name for that!

Frog? Fozen? fozenfal? Anyway, it was beautiful, but not enough snow for our needed winter pack. We are about 20% low this winter and next summer may suffer the effects. 

Today, fozenfal lifted, sunlight streams, and this is the view out my daughter's dining room window in the forest of NE WA state. 


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