Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
What's your gardening style?
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Wild Parsnip - It can burn skin.
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

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Comment by Randall Smith on December 9, 2013 at 7:47am

Daniel, you go to a lot of trouble (i.e., work!) to have a raised garden. Like adding a wire base. Mercy. I'm shamed to admit all I do is dig a trench, toss in seeds, and cover.

As far as what the extension service says about "not bothering to kill moles", I say "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?" They play havoc in my yard, killing grass by tunneling, making those mounds, and getting in the garden. They virtually destroyed a sweet corn patch one year. Do you remember Elmer Fudd's "Kill the Rabbit" song? Well, that's my mole mantra. 

Comment by Sentient Biped on December 8, 2013 at 11:24am

Farmer's Almanac prediction for local conditions, now:

Dec 5-11: Rainy periods, turning cool;


Comment by Sentient Biped on December 8, 2013 at 11:08am


Thanks for the poem.  Now I know!  Very nice.  Quiet and thoughtful.  That's kind of how this cold spell has come here too.

Randall, the mole hill thing is different but it works.  They make big soft hills all over these 2 acres.  Lots of them.  If we mow them, they blow huge billowing dust clouds.  Stomp them down, it just makes hard little hills.  I guess the other option is use a garden rake to spread them over the lawn.  The grass will grow up through them.

But they do make nice softly ground soil.  I take a wheelbarrow around and a flat shovel and collect them.   They don't have hard clots, and it mixes easily with compost.

I don't know if the hills serve a purpose for the moles - maybe a cover for their entrance, or a summit for them to perch upon in the night.  Maybe this removal annoys them.

I don't know what I will do when the raised beds are filled.  Probably rake them over the surrounding soil.  The state extension site says don't bother trying to kill them.   Plus they have an ecological role, eating underground bugs worms and maggots. 

For raised beds, I do a layer of soil then a layer of compost, then a layer of soil etc.  I mix together, then smooth it over.   They are 8 feet by 4 feet, by 1 foot deep.  I don't want moles in the raised bed, so they have a bottom made from chicken wire or hardware cloth.

Comment by Randall Smith on December 8, 2013 at 8:40am

Spud: I went through Sandburg's birth and home place in Galesburg IL several years ago. Tiny and unassuming. Nice museum next door.

Daniel: Pretty funny about what you do with your mole hill soil! I will take a page and try it. Not now, however--the ground is frozen. How's your health?

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 7, 2013 at 9:17pm

Fog, a poem by Carl Sandburg.

The fog comes
on little cat feet.

It sits looking
over harbor and city
on silent haunches
and then moves on.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 7, 2013 at 8:50pm

Sentient, It looks like the company you were looking at gives the same kind of analysis that mine did.  Good luck.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 7, 2013 at 8:48pm

-25 C is -13 F, which is quite cold.  That's about as cold as I've ever seen it where I live now.  I used to live 30 miles south of here and saw it get -30 F (-34 C).  About froze my hands off trying to start my car even with mittens on.

Comment by Patricia on December 7, 2013 at 1:33pm

We're in the minus 20's*C. now which hasn't happened at this time of year for quite some time. Your 32* is our zero. This is more like the normal we used to have 20-30 years ago, but it's supposed to begin warming again after the weekend, & that usually means snow. But it's dry & dressing for it is the way it is.

Comment by Sentient Biped on December 7, 2013 at 12:36pm

That's the kind of analysis I would like for mine.

Comment by Sentient Biped on December 7, 2013 at 12:34pm

Yours was high in almost everything, but maybe a bit alkaline.  Good soil!


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