Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
What's your gardening style?
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Wild Parsnip - It can burn skin.
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sentient Biped Sep 7. 4 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 27. 2 Replies

Sugar Baby

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Aug 24. 11 Replies

Evans Bali cherry

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Aug 24. 4 Replies


Started by Čenek Sekavec. Last reply by Idaho Spud Aug 23. 4 Replies

Some pictures from my garden

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 26. 7 Replies

The Next Green Revolution May Rely on Microbes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sentient Biped Jun 30. 2 Replies

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Comment by Sentient Biped on March 29, 2014 at 1:31pm
Joan, the NPK is similar to fish emulsion and it's free! Ning took to the idea with great enthusiasm. Once I researched, it seemed like "why didnt I do this before?"

The chicken yard is already lush and very green, so none goes to the trees there. Nature gives generously.
Comment by Joan Denoo on March 29, 2014 at 1:07pm

Spud, I just want to tell you how special you are to me, even if I don't respond to your many nice comments. I always read your work and treasure them. 

Thanks for the information about the sound being OK on your computer. It must be mine, then. OK, a new challenge to get on with. You know how much I like challenges. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 29, 2014 at 1:05pm

Daniel, you are ingenious. And such a natural thing for a gardener to do. Sorry I don't have the equipment to easily save mine. But what the heck, I can collect privately so what is the big deal? 

Gardeners are our best teachers!

Comment by Sentient Biped on March 29, 2014 at 12:48pm

Joan, on the nitrogen boost question, I was being discrete for esthetic reasons. But I should be honest.

I wrote up on the general topic here:


We keep a half-gallon jug in the bathroom and pee into that instead of flushing. I have a watering can that I use to dilute the urine, about 3 parts water to 1 part urine. Then I water that into the ground. This time of year, with the constant rain, there is no residual odor at all. Odor is most people's objections, and culture. Fish fertilizer is very stinky, but the rain washes that into the soil quickly too, when I use it. We have a septic system, so the urine goes into the ground anyway, just a different location.

This will be a growing trend among organic types. I think.


The trees are just budding out. Around each tree is a wide tuft of grass that is faster growing, thicker, and greener than the rest of the lawn, so I know there is a nitrogen boost that is getting into the soil. I don't want to use too much, but I do want them to be lush and grow faster and greener this year.

So that secret's out. :-)

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 29, 2014 at 12:22pm

Yes, David Esterling is who I was referring to.

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 29, 2014 at 12:15pm

Joan, it sounds good on my computer.

I liked the "American" carver and Gibbons expert explaining and showing why carving with lime-wood is so much better to make carvings with.

Around here, it's called basswood, which seems to be the same thing.  I've enjoyed carving it a little in the past.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 29, 2014 at 12:05pm

I found another treasure, David Esterly, woodcarver. 

David Esterling (Limewood) sculptor of Limewood. 

"Tilia is a genus of about 30 species of trees native throughout most of the temperate Northern Hemisphere. Commonly called lime trees in the British Isles, they are not closely related to the lime fruit. Other names include linden and basswood

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 29, 2014 at 11:25am

Out of curiousity roused by Daniel's comments on Linden trees, I went in search of  Grinling Gibbons  and found a real riches.

Grinling Gibbons... at Willowbrook Park 

Grinling Gibbons

There are some beautiful videos but the sound is wretched on my computer. I am sending one and hope the sound is good. Let me know how your computer handles it. 

1/4 The Glorious Grinling Gibbons - Carved with Love

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 29, 2014 at 11:03am

Daniel, what did you use for your spring kickstart for your trees? 

Thank you for responding to my question so quickly. 

Randall, I am impressed with your son-in-law perseverance is one of the keys to a happy life, in my opinion; start something ambitious and see that it gets completed. 

Comment by Sentient Biped on March 29, 2014 at 9:17am
This winter I gave the lindens - and other trees - a biy of an organic nitrogen boost. I hope that gives them a boost of growth. Last year was the first full year after planting them, so they are ready. Really want some flowers for me and the honeybees!

The sourwood buds are swelling so Iknow it survived the winter. And the persimmon and pawpaw buds. Spring is such a great time!

Randall keep encouraging your son in law. Spring will come!

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