Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
What's your gardening style?
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Wild Parsnip - It can burn skin.
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Idaho Spud on June 23, 2013 at 2:43pm

I've had good results with soaker hoses in the past, but last year I watered everything overhead and had good results.  However, this year I'm going back to soaker hoses.

The main reason is everyone says don't water watermelon overhead, as they are more susceptible to disease than other crops when wet.  My other crops will probably do better without overhead watering as well.

I've not had problems with soaker hoses leaking unless I stab them with a shovel or a wire used to hold them in place.  However, I'm going to be more careful and shouldn't have any problem with leakage.

My main concern with soaker hoses is that I don't know whether I'm over or under watering.  To remedy that concern, I'm going to put one in a large trash container and measure the amount of water they produce at a set time at the pressure I plan on using.

I plan on repeating that procedure with one that's been in service for a year or two to see how much the hard water deposits have reduced the flow. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 23, 2013 at 2:04pm

Ruth, I am sorry to learn that. It makes gardening so much easier. How do you manage watering now? 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on June 23, 2013 at 1:39pm

I tried soaker hoses in my raised beds. After a couple of years they leaked so badly I had to remove them. It was a huge waste of money and effort.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 23, 2013 at 1:34pm

Spud, maybe you and I should move to the Portland/Vancouver area and get in on those early harvests. On the other hand, I have put all this work in to create this place, so I am content, just rocking and sipping, and plucking snacks out of the garden. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 23, 2013 at 1:30pm

My friends who are organic gardeners and sell produce at the farmers' market, are retired highschool math teachers; about 20 years ago, they built high fences surrounding their cash crops, and built frames to hold "pig" wire around their fruit trees and grapes. Now they are both getting older, not able to work hard, and they are doing the same thing you and I are doing, Sentient. Everything is already built, the watering system is soaker hoses on timers which they plumbed in years ago.

We just have to spend those "productive" years doing the hard work so we can be less physically active in our "golden" years. I must say, I am enjoying these years more, in some ways, than those perspiring, aching muscle years. It was interesting to design and create, but I really do enjoy just sitting and watch it all happen. 

We used to have a "Harvest Feast" with our monthly cooking group at their place; they had it set up like a farm harvest with picnic tables and benches. For appetizers, we wandered through the garden, picking and eating as we strolled. Then we created a huge meal of cooked veggies and fresh fruits with home-made breads. Oh, those were the years. 

Being math teachers, we had wonderful times with fractals when we were not feasting. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 23, 2013 at 12:38pm

Sentient, I'm jealous of your harvest again.  I've been getting strawberries for the last few days, but I pick them 2 or 3 days before they're fully ripe because if I don't the squirrels, birds, and ants get them.  I've been too busy preparing watermelon soil to do anything about the strawberries.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 23, 2013 at 12:33pm

The noisy can deer deterrent does look like a good idea.  It may be a deterrent for other skittish animals as well.  I'll try to remember it if I move to a place with deer. 

Comment by Sentient Biped on June 23, 2013 at 10:42am

Joan, thank you for the research!  The cat food can idea looks very promising.  Much easier than fencing.  The concrete reinforcement wire also looks easier than what I've been doing. 

I use 4 fence posts, 7 feet tall, place them in a square around the tree, and use 5 foot tall wire fencing to make a cage around the tree.  One side is held shut with clothespins, so I can get into it.  Once constructed, it is reasonably easy for me to get into, and not much maintenance.  Weeding is  bit of a hassle but not bad.  This would not work for the garden beds - too big.  The cat food an idea is more workable.  Plus, my cat will have more purpose in life, by providing the cans.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 23, 2013 at 1:27am

I know what you mean about not having energy. 
My friends who live in the country use this type of protection:

Protect Fruit Trees from Deer

Here is an idea that the gardener claims works for him, is cheap, and not labor intensive. 

How to Keep Deer Out of Your Garden. DIY...easy, fun and cheap!

Comment by Sentient Biped on June 22, 2013 at 11:39pm

Joan, yes, those fruit were from today.  Still a lot of raspberries and some strawberries in the yard.  Then is a lull, then we should get plums and figs. 

Deer ate leaves and branches from the young apricot trees and pear trees.  They should still do OK as long as that's all the deer eat.  Today I sprayed with some very stinky spray - "Liquid Fence".  We'll see!  Fencing works well, so far, but I don't have the energy to cage those trees.


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