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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
What's your gardening style?
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Wild Parsnip - It can burn skin.
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Squirrels.
bees.
Cheap gardening.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on August 1, 2013 at 12:14pm
Sentient, I am surprised about the naming of wild blackberries. My search continues for the history of “Himalayan blackberries" and so far find all the information from other sources contained in the site, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubus_armeniacus.

Do you have the energy to control these delicious treasures?

I did find this, and I assume you have already found it. In case not, here is what I found:
“Himalayan blackberry (generally known scientifically as Rubus discolor, R. procerus or R. fruticosa, but technically R. armeniacus) is a robust, perennial, sprawling, more or less evergreen, shrub of the Rose family (Rosaceae).”
~ Controlling Himalayan Blackberry (Rubus armeniacus [R. discolor, R. procerus]) in the Pacific Northwest.
http://www.invasive.org/gist/moredocs/rubarm01.pdf

“Contrary to its common name, Himalayan blackberry (HBB) is a native of Western Europe. HBB was probably first introduced to North America in 1885 as a cultivated crop. By 1945 it had naturalized along the West Coast. HBB occurs on both acidic and alkaline soils, mainly in areas with an average annual rainfall greater than 76 cm (29 inches) at altitudes up to 1800 meters (6000 feet). It thrives and may form impenetrable thickets in wastelands, pastures, forest plantations, roadsides, creek gullies, river flats, riparian areas, fence lines, and right-of-way corridors. HBB thrives in moist but not true wetland soils, and tolerates a wide range of soil moisture.”

“Prescribed Grazing
“Chickens, surprisingly enough, are known to effectively digest (and destroy) all weed seeds passing through their crops and can thoroughly graze back vegetation in areas of up to one acre in size. Releasing chickens into an area after the mature plants are removed allows them to scratch and peck out weed seeds and potentially to reduce the weed seed bank in the soil.”
Comment by Idaho Spud on August 1, 2013 at 8:14am
Comment by Idaho Spud on August 1, 2013 at 7:47am

That reminds me of a story.  I knew a couple in a small community that said their kids liked to pick onions from the garden and eat them like apples.  I said good, even though I don't like uncooked onions.

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 1, 2013 at 7:44am

Chris, that's sad.  I've probably been spoiled to some extent also. For one thing, I like ice cream better than most natural foods and almost as good as my favorites.  Nothing better than vanilla ice cream with fresh-picked huckleberries!

At least I don't support Unilever's Ben & Jerry's ice cream. Hehe.  Tried it once and wasn't impressed.  It's also expensive.

Comment by Plinius on August 1, 2013 at 7:18am

I'm afraid many children have their tastebuds spoiled by ready made food. I know a few here who start retching when they begin to understand where milk and eggs come from. They don't trust normal food; instead they only trust edible things from a package. That is what Unilever and the others did to them.

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 1, 2013 at 7:08am

Or, have they never tasted ripe-on-the-vine blackberries?

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 1, 2013 at 7:06am

Can't imagine anyone not wanting to pick blackberries.  Do they not like the taste (unimaginable), or does society tell them it's just not done?  

Comment by Sentient Biped on July 31, 2013 at 11:47pm

Randall, Spud, I think there are lots of types of blackberries.  The ones that grow like Kudzu here are called Himalayan blackberries.  Which, strangely, come from Armenia and Iran.  Not the Himalayas. They are super tasty and I like picking them and eating them instantly.  They grow, I think, 12 feet in a year, and quickly cover any ground they find, climb to the treetops, and take over shrubs.

I tell people here I forage for blackberries and they look at me like I'm a few fries short of a happy meal.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 31, 2013 at 4:50pm

I would be super happy if I had such "weeds" around here.  

Comment by Randall Smith on July 31, 2013 at 7:19am

I'm wondering how many varieties of blackberries there are "out there"? I have several wild patches I frequent, and they're all different: Different in berry size, flavor, maturity, plant structure, etc. I think the practice of picking wild blackberries is forgotten. Nobody I knows does it. In fact, most people don't know difference in blackberries and raspberries.

 

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