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Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Squirrels.
bees.
Cheap gardening.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

Permaculture, John D. Liu

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 3. 8 Replies

Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W Nov 3. 2 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 2. 4 Replies

A texas garden I never thought I would see!

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Oct 30. 4 Replies

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Oct 29. 10 Replies

What the heck is hugelkultur? How does it save water?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Oct 29. 8 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 12, 2014 at 5:11pm

Barbara, what an experience! Yes, bats are our friends. I have a bat house in my garden but I have never seen a bat go in or out. I don't look in to inspect it; I just leave it alone. 

The numbers amaze me! How can that many creatures exist together and live in the aroma of guano. I have been in bat caves before; nothing like this one. Mind boggling! Beautiful photography! 

Comment by Čenek Sekavec on June 12, 2014 at 3:09pm

Wow Barbara thanks for sharing that is really neat. Those pics came out quite nicely :)

Comment by Barbara Livingston on June 12, 2014 at 12:06pm

Spud, actually 24 million individuals ... as each female has a baby.  What is also fascinating is that for every female with a baby in the cave there is a male living somewhere in the area. Barns, buildings, under bridges, etc. Bats are good so if you see one don't kill it as it has a family somewhere close by. :) 

Comment by Barbara Livingston on June 12, 2014 at 11:59am

Benches are above cave opening and -+ 40 yards from it. Almost overwhelming smell of amonia from the bat guano. I can't get a better pic to upload. And yes, packed in. After babies are born they cling to mother. If they lose grip they drop to bottom of cave where they are eaten by a small black beetle which lives in the guano. :( Life is hard in a bat cave.   www.batcon.org 

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 12, 2014 at 11:40am

Wow, 500 bats per square foot!  They must be packed in wing to wing. 

I would like to see that many bats.  We saw bats at night where I grew-up, but nothing like 12 million.  

Comment by Barbara Livingston on June 12, 2014 at 11:31am

There are 12,000,000, yes million, female bats in the cave and each female has one baby. 500 bats per square foot. It takes four hours for all the bats to leave the cave. They begin exiting the cave at sundown. Our guide said when the cicadas begin to sing the bats will emerge shortly thereafter and she was right.

We were not allowed to use flash. I have a Nikon S570 digital point and shoot camera and having to turn the flash off liminated my options. They emitted a chirping sound and combined with the sound of their wings was simply amazing. I was not able to capture a picture of them swirling around the cave opening before they took to the air. 

There is no way I could capture the swarm of bats in the sunset, but, the dark areas just above the pink are bats. 

Hawks, snakes, and various other animals that eat the bats wait on the edges of the cave for their nightly meal. There was an enormous Red Tail Hawk sitting in the trees waiting ... and he helped himself to the buffet about 5 minutes after they emerged. 

Again, the dark area around the moon is all bats. I tried adjusting the pic to make them stand out without success.  Some of my  pictures look almost surreal as the camera captured the movement of the bats and the image is a blur of movement.

I'm definitely not a pro at this, but it was fun to try and it was a wonderful experience and memory. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 12, 2014 at 7:57am

It is 6 AM, finished breakfast and headed for the garden. Yesterday was the most perfect garden day, moderate temperature, a light breeze, and I stayed out for a nap before coming in for lunch. It just couldn't get better than this. 

Hope each one of you has a good day, full of joy and peace. 

Comment by Randall Smith on June 12, 2014 at 7:21am

Eager to hear about your bat cave "field trip", Barbara!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 11, 2014 at 11:17am

Barbara, I hope you are able to get some good photos, and share them with us. I just now joined the conservation group for bats. Thanks for the citation. 

Comment by Barbara Livingston on June 11, 2014 at 10:55am

Speaking of pest control, I'm going to the Bracken Bat Cave tonight to watch the departure of bats. I've lived here for over 30 years and have never been.  www.batcon.org   They consume enormous amounts of flying insects during their excursions from the cave each night.  We aren't allowed to use flash to photograph them, however, I'm hoping for a least one good picture.  

 

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