Godless in the garden

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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 170
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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

Permaculture, John D. Liu

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 3. 8 Replies

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Comment by Randall Smith on July 7, 2014 at 7:28am

Oh Joan, I love your positive "can do" spirit! Gardening is so theraputic--weeds and all!

Daniel and Cenek, I've been pouring my pee bucket water down mole holes in hopes the odor will discourage the little buggers. 

While the nitrogen (ammonia) is good for plants, the extra salt is not. So one has to be careful not to add concentrated "urine juice" directly to plant roots. And I'm having the same problem with my tomato plants--some doing great, others puny and worthless. Who knows why (rhetorical). 

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 7, 2014 at 6:02am

Haven't seen any bumblebees in the last couple of days, but there's always a bee or two on my onion flowers, so I decided to snap one of those:

Comment by Daniel W on July 6, 2014 at 5:16pm

Cenek, I've only been using urine as fertilizer for 1 year.  I have not done a randomized, controlled trial, but I'm very impressed with the growth surge in many of my trees, fruit trees, shrubs, and vegetables.  In some cases it was bad.  I think it killed off a number of my bearded irises.  Other plants that demand high amounts of nitrogen include greens, squash, grasses like corn.  Too much is a bad thing, burns leaves or can cause overgrowth of leaves at expense of fruits, so it requires caution.

Comment by Čenek Sekavec on July 6, 2014 at 3:24pm

Thanks for the tips guys.

As for urine fertilizer, it doesn't sound crazy to me. I first read about it in the very old book '10 acres enough' wherein the author said that 'liquid manure and urine' was found to be the best way of increasing yield. 

Comment by Daniel W on July 6, 2014 at 1:51pm

Joan, you've been working hard!  I hope the garden therapy is as good for you, as it is for me!

 

Cenek, last year my tomatoes did not take off, most of them stayed pale and puny.  This year I gave them a big nitrogen boost.  They agree fast, with big dark green leaves, and have lots of flowers and little tomatoes now.  The nitrogen boost was diluted pee, about 1/2 quart in a 2 gallon watering can, spread over about 40 square feet of garden bed.  I did that twice.  I don't know if it will help you now.  I'm not crazy.  There have been multiple studies on that method, and for nitrogen-hogs like tomatoes, it an help significantly.

 

On the other hand, if all of the rest of your garden plants are growing like crazy, you may have plenty of nitrogen.  Maybe it's the soil pH, or other nutrient deficiency.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 6, 2014 at 12:50pm

I don't know about pine trees, but two sites I found indicate they should be kept moist but not wet:

http://www.gardenguides.com/102562-transplant-pine-trees.html

http://www.pinetum.org/Lovett/planting.htm

Comment by Čenek Sekavec on July 6, 2014 at 12:42pm

It seems like all my garden plants have exploded into giantism, except tomatoes which are stunted and not growing well at all (maybe the soil doesn't agree with them?).

I found a pine tree growing only a few centimeters from the house, so I transplanted it with as much of the soil as I could. Is over-watering it a concern or should I keep it muddy for a while?

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 6, 2014 at 10:46am

Daniel, I get what you mean about bumblebees pausing at each flower less than honeybees.  I hadn't noticed that because I've not yet tried to take their picture, but I'll notice now.

Thanks for the bumblebee site, and I like the whimsical and cute name Bombini Bombus occidentalis.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 6, 2014 at 10:42am

Good morning everyone. I slept in today so am getting into the garden late. The heat drives me in before noon these days. The garden is slowly coming back to its previous beauty. I filled the recycle bin many times and overflowed onto a big tarp. So much of the growth was weeds, and they went into the city recycle, and for the un-diseased, and non-weed greens, they went into the open air compost. 

My back hurts like the dickens and I do little exercises to strengthen my "core", as my physical therapist taught me. I am not able to lift as much as I did a year or so ago, and I attribute that to my ageing bones and skeleton. Just part of the new normal.

My right arm hurts, too, from all the clipping I do. A couple of Aleve takes care of that. So, all-in-all, I am a happy gardener enjoying the wildlife of my little nature sanctuary. 

I hope each one of you has a delightful day, just overflowing with good experiences and happy thoughts. 

Just sharing a beautiful sight that almost takes my breath away: 

You and I are a part of all this precious Earth and the universe is part of us. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 6, 2014 at 10:24am

I cringe whenever I see the lawn spraying truck come down my street.  

It sprayed the lawn across the street from me last week.  It was almost calm, so hopefully it didn't drift over to my garden.

 

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