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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Living in the forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud yesterday. 6 Replies

Good plants that volunteer.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Idaho Spud on Monday. 17 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W May 2. 2 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 2. 1 Reply

Rooftop Gardens

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 3. 20 Replies

How to Make a Food Forest Suburb

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 1. 1 Reply

Fantastic Fungi - a film by Louie Schwartzberg

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 28. 1 Reply

Michael Pollan On Joel Salatin's Polyface Farm

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Mar 22. 1 Reply

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Comment by Idaho Spud on September 22, 2013 at 11:55am

Congratulations on your first melon Sentient.  Glad to hear the midget melon tastes very good, to you and the chickens.

My Braun blender doesn't spray unless I get carried-away and pull it up where the blade is at the top of the liquid.  

Funny thing:  I put a capital U in Braun in my last post because I thought that's the way they did it, but I was wrong.  They capitalize the whole thing, but make the A much larger (not the U).  They also make the N like nobody else.   Same way they do it on my electric shavers.  Well, I'll just spell it Braun from now on.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 21, 2013 at 11:53pm

Ruth, I have the same experience. Cary worked all spring to get them out of a border, even using a garden sieve to get the roots out of the soil. He even used Roundup - a NoNo in my garden. They have returned with a vengeance. Tiny seeds spread as well as the roots. Good luck on your effort. Birds spread the seeds as well. 

Our next strategy is to put a heavy back plastic over the area, making sure no sunlight gets to them; also withhold water. That should sterilize the soil killing everything under it. 

I welcome any other suggestions. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on September 21, 2013 at 10:39pm

This Spring one wild violet came up in my front garden from seed. I've had them in the shady back garden with no problems, so I let it bloom and grow. Now I have a mat of violet plants covering a fifth of the raised bed, going up a small wall and growing down into the holes between stones of the lower wall as well. I had no idea they spread so rapidly from roots in sunny areas. Not looking forward to all the work of digging them out. *head slap*

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 21, 2013 at 9:15pm

Comment by Daniel W on September 21, 2013 at 8:01pm

Planted today.  Bulbs give me something to look forward to in Spring.  Some start growing in Feb - daffodils and hyacinths - which gives me a sense of hope and optimism.   All of these were listed as deer resistant.  



Over the years, I may have planted hundreds of bulbs. Some naturalize well, others die out. Survival of the fittest. Evolution in action.

Comment by Daniel W on September 21, 2013 at 4:29pm

Picked a good crop of ripe figs. Some fermented on the tree - like wine. A big yellow bell pepper. Some Thai peppers. A few tomatoes. This melon - the first ever for me. Variety is called "Minnesota Midget", from a heritage seed source - I think it was seed savers. It was very good, tasted like it was intended. And the chickens loved the seeds.

Comment by Daniel W on September 21, 2013 at 4:23pm


The Braun sounds like a lot better than the Magic Bullet - less likely to spray hot soup.  You could also put in onion, garlic, pepper.  I like to sprinkle drief basil flakes or Italian spice over the top.

You are right, I use a  vegetable bullion. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 20, 2013 at 8:26am

I use a 200 watt BraUn handheld blender, which is easy to clean as I hate clean-up.  I usually blend in the container I drink from  but two days ago I made a "Sentient hot broccoli smoothie", and made a large container full that I keep in the refrigerator.  

The smoothie was not great, but good, especially after I added margarine, but I can't call it a "Sentient" smoothy because of the margarine, but also as I left-out the tofu and used a beef bullion cube, instead of a vegetable one, that I assume Sentient used.

Comment by Randall Smith on September 20, 2013 at 7:33am

A blender is one thing I don't have--at least a nice big one. Two former wives hauled them off. I've managed for 14 years without one. Like Patricia, I use a small coffee grinder. Flax seeds need to be ground (up).  

Had my "season's first" sweet potato last night. Yum yum! I forgot how much better they taste when first gathered. They lose something after 6 months in storage. 

I've been researching Greek food for my trip (in two days). I've got a list, but I doubt if it'll do much good. Trial and error, my motto.

Comment by Daniel W on September 18, 2013 at 6:55pm

i need to add a warning about using the Magic Bullet with hot foods, like making a cream soup.  I used to use the large sealed container, but a few times the hot soup leaked out of the seal.  So I started using the blender-shaped attachment.

That has still sprayed hot soup from the top.  I know that because I just made some, and it did.  So I cover it with a towel before blending. It is probably still hazardous for that purpose.  I have to say, I can't recommend using it for hot soups.


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