Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
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What's your gardening style?
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Wild Parsnip - It can burn skin.
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

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Bunga Bakawali or Tan Hua (Epiphyllum oxypetallum)

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Backyard Organic Garden

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"Healthy Soil Microbes / Healthy People"

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Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

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Sugar Baby

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Evans Bali cherry

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Comment by Plinius on April 14, 2013 at 1:38pm

Thanks for the info, Dallas! And I think she added chalk; she was a fundie who never joked, so what she told me was what she believed herself.

Comment by Annie Thomas on April 14, 2013 at 10:59am

Re: green burials

We have a wonderful green cemetery in my area.


The location is a beautiful area that surrounds a large house that is used for various events.  I've been to a few wedding out there and it is lovely. 

I spoke with a man who had just buried his mother there, and he described what sounded like the most appropriate was to say goodbye to a loved one.  His wife bathed his mother after she died, then they wrapped in a simple shroud. No tombstones are markers are allowed at the cemetery, but you are allowed to plant native vegetation.  This man chose to plant wildflowers, and he spoke of the cemetery getting ready to change their policy on what people can plant.  Many were choosing to plant magnolias, which would eventually create a forest (not good for digging graves). 

I do wonder what the policy is for people who choose to go off to medical school after death?  Something I'll have to inquire about.

I have a friend on the board who occasionally posts on Facebook about needing volunteers to help dig graves there.  Some weekend I hope it will work into my schedule.  It seems like a wonderful way to help out a family in their time of mourning.

Comment by A Former Member on April 14, 2013 at 9:37am

Nice Universe video Joan.

Comment by A Former Member on April 14, 2013 at 8:56am
Comment by A Former Member on April 14, 2013 at 8:55am

@ Chris: I don't think she would have added chalk. She may have just been teasing you when she said that. Likely it was cornstarch or arrow root powder which she added for some reason or another. 

I don't think spinach uses the calcium in your body. From what I recall, it prevents the absorption of calcium because it contains oxalic acid, though I'm not seeing a reference of that on the oxalic acid wiki page. 

However, it does state: 

Calcium oxalate is the most common component of kidney stones. Early investigators isolated oxalic acid from wood-sorrel(Oxalis). Its presence makes it dangerous to eat unripe carambola or monstera fruits. Members of the spinach family are high in oxalates, as is sorrel.[11] Rhubarb leaves contain about 0.5% oxalic acid and jack-in-the-pulpit (Arisaema triphyllum) contains calcium oxalate crystals. Bacteria produce oxalates from oxidation of carbohydrates.[4]

In humans, oxalic acid has an oral LDLo (lowest published lethal dose) of 600 mg/kg.[15]

The toxicity of oxalic acid is due to kidney failure, which arises because it causes precipitation of solid calcium oxalate, the main component of kidney stones. Oxalic acid can also cause joint pain due to the formation of similar precipitates in the joints. Ingestion of ethylene glycol results in oxalic acid as a metabolite which can also cause acute kidney failure.

Comment by Plinius on April 14, 2013 at 1:58am

Chalk - I'm not very sure what she used, Joan, it's so long ago that I saw my mother in the kitchen. But the idea was that some vegs (rhubarb and spinach) use the calcium from your body when your eat them, so you add some calcium to prevent osteoporosis.

I like the burial ideas, but I'm going in for short term recycling. Many people here are waiting for new organs and many die when on the waiting list.   

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 13, 2013 at 11:38pm

Neil deGrasse Tyson stops a religious troll (w/captions)

Dominic and Daniel, I like your ideas of a "green burial in a forest or meadow, no embalming, no casket, just shroud.  The trees and grasses will have minerals from my body."  

I hard a tough time finding this old video, but it makes such good sense to me. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 13, 2013 at 11:33pm

Daniel, you do not talk enough about your bees and figs and rhubarb and garden. Your garden stories delight me. Thanks for the recipe. I haven't seen my rhubarb yet, but it is in the back of the garden. I shall go look tomorrow. It is so easy to freeze. I spread out slices of rhubarb on wax paper or parchment paper on a baking sheet and fast freeze them. Then I fill glass jars with frozen slices, put them back into the freezer. Glass jars take more room than plastic bags, however I am staying away from plastic as much as possible. 

I agree with Dallas, rhubarb sauce is wonderful with yogurt. I love Greek yogurt with honey, however, it is a little too sweet for my blood sugar. 

Spud, perhaps you can try some early varieties of strawberries. There are varieties that come out that early. And like you, I love a stalk of rhubarb to eat in the garden. 

If you gently simmer balsamic vinegar until it is a syrup and pour it over the strawberries and/or rhubarb, that is ambrosia. 

Chris, you said "chalk"; like black board chalk? I sometimes use a little flour or corn starch, but only if I cook it ... it acts as a thickener. What does chalk do? 

Dominic and Daniel, I like your ideas of a "green burial in a forest or meadow, no embalming, no casket, just shroud.  The trees and grasses will have minerals from my body."  

Grandmothers come to mind for me as well. Oh the pies they could bake! Crusts as light and tender as I have ever eaten.  

I think this is the brightest spring I can ever remember; the colors just dazzle.

Well, dear friends, I hope you all have a smashing weekend, get a little fresh air, but not too much garden work. Sore muscles and aching backs do not bring any kind of joy to life. So, easy does it. 

I don't mean to bore you with this video, but I just feel so good when I watch it, so here goes:

We are the Universe (Lawrence Krauss, Neil Degrasse Tyson, Carl Sagan)

Comment by A Former Member on April 13, 2013 at 11:19pm

Sounds lovely, Joan. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 13, 2013 at 10:57pm

Oh! My garden explodes with colors. I tried to go out and do a bit of trimming, but the cold drove me in to a hot cup of coffee and tasty crumpet. Forsythia along the east fence has such a lemony color, I can almost taste it. The Star Magnolia peaked; blossoms continue to hold on. The bergenia, all children of a mother plant, bloom in the border where the skunk lives. A splendid time of year. Last year's dead flowers look like tired soldiers that want to go to their rest, and I have not the energy to lay them on the compost; maybe next month. Green everywhere, barely a spot in the garden that hasn't turned green, some of them little spring crocus, yellows, purples, blues and a blue flower called "Bright Eyes". Helleborus, all over the garden bloom white this year; I find no pinks or wine colors. The leaves begin their growth, and soon the blossoms will disappear into the leaves. Their pretty faces will turn downwards and by autumn, will have mature seeds ready to be scattered into a few bare spots.

Three more nights of below freezing forecasted, the ground will begin heating up quickly after these night frosts. 


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