Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
What's your gardening style?
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Wild Parsnip - It can burn skin.
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

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Comment by Idaho Spud on October 22, 2012 at 5:29pm

I grew some Bell Peppers for the first time ever this year, and was surprised when I harvested them the day before the frost hit.  They were a dark purple!

The seeds were from the cheap "American Seed" company, the packet calls them California Wonders and the picture shows them green.  

Then, a few days ago, I looked in the refrigerator crisper bin where I put them, and they were turning green in patches.  I've looked a little on Wikipedia and Google, but so far, I see no explanation for this.

They didn't get yellow or red because my season is too short I think, and I also let my berries cover them, so they didn't get full sun, but I can't imagine that would make them purple.

What do you guys think?

Comment by Annie Thomas on October 22, 2012 at 5:22pm

Thanks for the article Joan! The leaves that I do rake, I put in a pile next to the compost and use them for covering my kitchen scraps.  I do, however, have two large magnolia trees in the front and must rake those and leave them for the lawn trash pick-up.  They are just so large and thick and seem to take forever to decompose.  Our lawn recycling program here allows you to call for a free truckload of mulch to be dropped at the front of your yard. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 22, 2012 at 4:40pm

Idaho Spud, great job! I just cringe when I see all that treasure being sent off to the landfill. Now we have green recycle and the resulting compost is made available for public to buy. Good for you!. You will be surprised how fact plants perk up. I do caution, however, if piled deeply around plants, it will tend to mold and cause problems. An easy remedy is put it in a compost pile or compost bin. Black Flies will form if enough dirt isn't thrown in on top. I keep my compost at the far end of the garden, hang some fly catchers nearby, and I have no problem.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 22, 2012 at 2:05pm

Joan, thanks for the article on leaves.  I'm glad to see that studies show mowing leaves into your lawn makes for a better lawn, even thought I don't have one.

I let the leaves from my trees get recycled into my garden and last year I couldn't stand to see my neighbor's leaves from her huge trees get thrown into the garbage cans, so I asked if I could rake them up and use them on my garden and compost piles.  It was a lot of work, but I got a lot of good compost for my garden.  I see they are falling again today with the windy conditions.  I'll do it again if my old body will let me.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 22, 2012 at 12:25pm

Improve Your Soil by Raking Less

My son and I garden together and it has been a learning experience for me. He like to garden for appearance, I like to garden for what is good for the plants. The two are not necessarily opposed, but do create some healthy discussions. Our compromise, he will compost what he would prefer to go to city waste and I spread compost in the spring or autumn, whichever is appropriate. It works. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 18, 2012 at 5:53am

Chris, to see my photos and albums, go to > Joan Denoo > My Albums >

or > 

Joan's garden - Five years of changing seasons.


Comment by Plinius on October 18, 2012 at 1:22am

It's a wonderful planning, Joan, and it must be very satisfying to look at such a garden. I can see you can plan like this because your garden is big and open, so you don't have to think of the light or the wind when planning. Have you got a summer picture?

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 17, 2012 at 4:21pm

If you take the East and West line it represents:

The Power to Be + The Power to Belong = We

If you take the North and South line it represents: 

The Power to Do + the Power Think = Praexis

I use the center of the circle to represent the connection between Earth and the Universe. Now, you are going to have to stretch your imagination a bit, but you know how a well dug into the ground is to reach water? we are like a hole in the air connecting Earth and Universe. We exist, we are part of it all and it is all part part of us. 

I am plagiarizing Neil deGrasse Tyson for this "being part of the universe"  concept.

Comment by Sentient Biped on October 17, 2012 at 4:11pm

maybe we don't have to plan for it, the numbers seem to be every where.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 17, 2012 at 4:08pm

The Four Elements

I use the four elements in my garden.

East  air  yellow  The Power to Be

South  fire  red  The Power to Do

West  water  blue  The Power to belong

North  earth/soil  black/white  The Power to Think

When figuring out this pattern, I had trouble with North and the Power of earth/soil and fooling around with the idea, I realized soil >black >dark > decompose > regenerate > the brain is in a dark place of regeneration of ideas = Think

Putting this pattern on a circle, my round patio, I wanted to use the directions to remind me of the elements and I assigned meaning to them. 

I chose East represented by yellow, the color of morning, a new day, the breath of life, spring, planting, seeds, and it represented me, as an individual. 

Power to Be.

I chose South represented by red, color of red in fire, hot, midday, the time of growing, building, working, it represents physical growth and the body. 

Power to Do.

I chose West represented by blue, color of water in lakes and oceans, end of day, sunset, harvest, life that comes from the ocean, evolution, and it represents family or others. 

Power to Belong.

I chose North represented by black or white, the color of night, decomposition, dormancy and the quiet place of contemplation.

Power to Think. 

Garden 2010 late autumn


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