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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 169
Latest Activity: 17 hours ago

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Stressed Bees

Started by Patricia. Last reply by Patricia Feb 12. 2 Replies

Permaculture U. of Mass

Started by Joan Denoo Jan 16. 0 Replies

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry Dec 26, 2014. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 25, 2014. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10, 2014. 3 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on November 17, 2013 at 4:14pm
I ran across this diary while looking for fossil horses:
"Plowing Up History!

"One year as the Donahoes were plowing their land near where the Steptoe Battlefield site, they plowed up a cannon ball and some old guns, most of which had deteriorated. That’s not all that was plowed up. In 1890 to 1900 there were hills covered with flowers and millions of prairie chickens; however when the farmers plowed up the flowers, they destroyed bird nests. There were thousands of other birds like blackbirds, bob-whites, quails and lots of squirrels. There were also many mink, muskrats and fish until the Smith brothers put in a dam at Pine City. After all the plowing, Leo wrote: "Now there is nothing but wheat."
"A History of the Rosalia Area
http://www.sos.wa.gov/history/cities_detail.aspx?i=11
Comment by Daniel W on November 17, 2013 at 8:20am
Randall, it's fantastic to have a family heirloom fruit tree!

There are some named Varieties of American persimmon - Meader and Golden among others. One of my saplings is supposedly a hybrid Asian/American that is self-fruitful, the other is an Asian persimmon, also supposedly self fruitful. We'll see if I ever get fruit from them. I think the hardest stage us getting them established the first year. We made it through that much!

To have fruit trees you grew from seed - also fantastic! I have some seedling wild plums, a european plum seedling, snd a peach. Whether I will see fuit from those is iffy.
Comment by Randall Smith on November 17, 2013 at 7:49am

Joan: How's my body holding up? Legs!!  Seriously, my back is a little sore this morning, but overall, I'm in great shape. I'm an exercise nut, so that helps.

Daniel: The persimmon trees and seeds came from a tree my grandmother planted 90 years ago. It was struck by lightning about 3 years ago and is now gone. Luckily, and with foresight, I planted seeds from it that have grown to respectability--2 "females" and 4 "males". So I'm assuming they're called American persimmons. And so delicious! Be patient.

Comment by Daniel W on November 16, 2013 at 8:34pm
Randall thanks for showing your persimmon tree! we will see if I get fruit in a few years! You must wait for them to fall to ground. Are they a named variety?
Comment by Daniel W on November 16, 2013 at 8:32pm
Joan,
plus... I lve learning. that kind of history! It is part of the story of the Columbisn exchange - when separate diverse ecosystems became part of a global ecosystem.
Maybe the horses did so well partly because they wete a missing part of the ecology. Long before, were there horses or other large herbivores that were wiped out by hunter gatherers?
Comment by Daniel W on November 16, 2013 at 8:25pm
Joan what a beautiful area!
Comment by Joan Denoo on November 16, 2013 at 12:28pm
Rndall, your harvest sounds delicious and beautiful. Autumn chores getting ready for the long winter is one of my favorite seasons. You know how to care for your garden and produce; pickled beets taste so good. The smells, both indoors and out awaken deep feelings. How is your body holding up?
Comment by Randall Smith on November 16, 2013 at 7:49am

Mid November garden activities: cleaned and fertilized asparagus bed, removed cages and support poles, dug beets (to store or pickle), filled 3 large cages with leaves and pine needles, planted peach seeds (nectarines didn't germinate last year--I suppose because they're hybrids?), spread compost, and pick/dig up Brussels sprouts, kale, arugala, carrots, parsnips, etc. when needed. And that's only half of it!

Comment by Plinius on November 12, 2013 at 6:21am

Don't stop, tell us more, Joan!

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 11, 2013 at 9:42pm

South of Spokane is the Palouse farmland, created by Pliocene deposits of an inland sea, overlaid by basaltic flows. Volcanic ash blew in for eons from the east caused by the buildup of the Rockies and from the west caused by the Cascade eruptions creating very rich soils. Glaciation and ice age floods created fine dust or loess that blew in and covered the basalts. Water flows through the basalts, watering the soils.

These features are the same as the rich grain fields I saw in Turkey, caused by the same geologic forces. The major difference I saw was women dressed head to toe in heavy coats, with bandanas on their heads, using scythes to cut the wheat, gather it in bunches and load it on wagons pulled by mules. Harvest time in Turkey has very hot temperatures, well into the 90 degrees +. I saw no harvesting equipment such as we have in the Palouse. 

Palouse is named after the horses, introduced by the Spaniards in the south and east. The horses multiplied and reached the northwest around 1700. The Nez Perce tribe learned to train them and changed from fish, hunter, gatherer people to a more active hunter group.  

Well, that is a lot more than you want to know, I am sure. 

 

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