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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 173
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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Living in the forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 27. 6 Replies

Good plants that volunteer.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 25. 17 Replies

Air-pots

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W May 2. 2 Replies

Air-pots

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 2. 1 Reply

Rooftop Gardens

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 3. 20 Replies

How to Make a Food Forest Suburb

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 1. 1 Reply

Fantastic Fungi - a film by Louie Schwartzberg

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 28. 1 Reply

Michael Pollan On Joel Salatin's Polyface Farm

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Mar 22. 1 Reply

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Comment by king on May 5, 2014 at 7:45am
Deep feeder with a all natural bug killer
Comment by king on May 4, 2014 at 9:41pm
Corn beans and some flowers in today
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 4, 2014 at 3:46pm

Well, the experiment commences. I don't have red or fire ants, but I have a couple of ant hills and I will do some experimenting. I'll let you know if I find anything that works. Or doesn't work. 

When we lived in El Paso, we had several horned toads and they loved being near the ant hills.

Don't have any toads in my garden. I do have a toad house I made out of a broken clay pot. No toads.

So much for "If you build it, they will come!" 

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 4, 2014 at 3:32pm

Wikipedia says: "The adaptive nature of ant colonies make it nearly impossible to eliminating entire colonies and most pest management practices aim to control local populations and tend to be temporary solutions."

From this and your article, I doubt any of my herbs got rid of ants.  More likely, some of the chemical deterrents I purchased and used decreased the population.  For what little it's worth, I used mint, lemon-grass, and sage.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 4, 2014 at 2:21pm

"Shelve the grits, baking soda, club soda, vinegar, molasses, plaster of Paris, aspartame, cayenne pepper, cinnamon and coffee grounds! In scientific testing, none of these home remedies worked"

How to Get Rid of Fire Ants

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 4, 2014 at 2:18pm

Spud, do you remember which herbs got rid of ants? 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 4, 2014 at 2:17pm

k.h. ky, I share your concern for earth worms and other living organisms that make for healthy soils. If the surrounding soils have a healthy batch of worms and bacteria, the hot spot should quickly recover. If not, bring in healthy soil or topdress with well composted manures, green or brown. 

Idaho Spud , I called around town and didn't find any Medina Orange Oil. It is available at Amazon.com. Perhaps other orange oils will work. The articles I read from extension research colleges indicated Medina Orange Oil. 

I have been thinking about how to get hot water to the ant hills. I think what I will do is take my grandmother's old hot plate near to the hill, boil the water in her large old teakettle, both of which have been in my basement for 50 years, and pour from there.

The hot water will kill worms and bacteria as well, but my soil is so healthy, I have no doubt that as soon as the soil cools those wonderful critters will find their way into the damaged soils.  

Any other ideas?   

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 4, 2014 at 1:56pm

I've heard that several kinds of herbs will deter ants.  There were ants always populating the cracks in my walkway to the front door, so I planted some herbs along it several years ago and so far it seems to be working.

Some of the herbs have died, so I'm going to plant more.  I'll try some in the rest of the garden as well.  See what happens.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 4, 2014 at 1:30pm

If pine have big soft needles, then the neighbors evergreen is not pine, because those needles are vicious!  Especially when dry.

Comment by king on May 4, 2014 at 1:22pm
Ok you say pine is that really pine or spruce or one of the other types of trees that people call pine I ask cause most pine have big soft needles
 

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