Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
What's your gardening style?
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Wild Parsnip - It can burn skin.
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

Bunga Bakawali or Tan Hua (Epiphyllum oxypetallum)

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Joan Denoo yesterday. 13 Replies

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo yesterday. 7 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sentient Biped yesterday. 4 Replies

"Healthy Soil Microbes / Healthy People"

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Joan Denoo yesterday. 26 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 27. 2 Replies

Sugar Baby

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Aug 24. 11 Replies

Evans Bali cherry

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Aug 24. 4 Replies


Started by Čenek Sekavec. Last reply by Idaho Spud Aug 23. 4 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2013 at 11:39am

From left to right: garlic, hollyhock, roses, mullein.

Common Mullein

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2013 at 11:35am

This is a photo of a small garlic patch with one gigantic garlic as high as the hollyhocks. I am eager to taste it to see if it is like its brothers and sisters in the patch. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2013 at 11:03am
Sentient, how timely your article is for me. My roses are developing a strange growth pattern on new leaves. Much like the calcium deficiency shown here. I have some in the shed and will give it a try.
Comment by Sentient Biped on July 20, 2013 at 10:34am

Joan, I haven't been to Butchart in years - probably 13 years ago.  It's a very beautiful place.


This is an unattributed pic from another website.  I like to think about why leaves don't look right.  This pic gives some indication.


The pic does not show the role of pH - if too acid or too alkaline, a mineral deficiency can be  apparent even if those minerals are abundant.  For example, citrus, rhodies, blueberries in alkaline soil will look iron deficient.  If pH is lowered, the deficiency resolves.  If iron is added, it doesn't.


I had tomato plants in a purchased topsoil/compost mix, with yellow leaves.  Normally I mix as much of my own compost with my own soil, as I can - I feel reassured about absence of poisons, and balance of nutrients, that way.  But in this case I bought the mix.  The tomato leaves were yellow.  I thought....  Magnesium deficient.  Looked like the description in this illustration. Added Epson Salts (Magnesium sulfate) 1/4 teaspoon per gallon of water, and the leaves are green again.  Maybe a good guess.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2013 at 1:27pm

Just a reminder to those who love gardens, Butchart Gardens in Vancouver, B.C. have many ideas for how to grow and manage plants.  I took an idea I saw there for climbing roses and I use it now in my garden. I fan out the branches on my fence, cut off those that go into the path, or re-direct them to the fence, and I have  a wall of yellow roses, they are well ventilate, and well supported. 

Butchart Gardens, Vancouver, B.C. photos

Mine needs deadheading but I just don't have the energy at this time. They will wait for me, just not give me late blooms. That is their revenge. 

Comment by Randall Smith on July 18, 2013 at 10:17am

Sentient: Hope you're feeling better. Had my first sweet corn last night! Picked 12 lbs of blueberries ($28 worth)! Blackberries coming on. It's just so blame hot to pick them. Same with green beans.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2013 at 9:16am
Sentient, thanks for those lovely photos.
My raspberry patch is full of birds. Using binoculars, I can watch them close up and they enjoy the berries so much, I get vicarious pleasure just watching them.
The peppermint is going to seed now and I will dedicate a patch to them, they are so delicious, pretty and prolific. They can also invade.
Hummingbirds all over the garden, darting hither and yon.
One variety of daylily now has finished their bloom time, the 'Stella de Oro' blooms at peak.
Spud, wish I had one of your melons.
Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2013 at 9:02am
Angelika led me to a new site that I like:
Comment by Annie Thomas on July 17, 2013 at 8:19pm

Chris-  I am so impressed when people use small spaces so wisely.  The love of coaxing something to grow, regardless the container or plot of land, is what ties us all together in our love of gardening.  One of my favorite gardens was a moon garden I planted in my college apartment courtyard.  It was about the size of a postage stamp, but I was oh so proud of that garden. ;-)

Sentient-  I just returned from a visit to my parents in NC.  My mother always makes such beautiful arrangements with the flowers she grows.  She had a basket filled with Buddleia.... lovely!  My parents have three large plants near their driveway.  They are always buzzing with activity!

Comment by Sentient Biped on July 17, 2013 at 7:14pm

Joan, thanks.  Mostly fatigue and some gastrointestinal stuff.  Not to go into detail.....  :)

What a beautiful pic.  That is what I am aiming for in the apiary garden, but I didn't know it until now!

Another couple of pics from today.  Butterflies love Buddleia.  So far I haven't seen honeybees on these, but the shrubs are new, small, not of flowers yet, and there are lots of other nectar sources. There have been some bumblebees.


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