Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky 21 minutes ago. 8 Replies

Potatoes. Growing the perfect food.

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Sentient Biped Oct 11. 12 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sky God Oct 10. 3 Replies

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 10. 9 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Annie Thomas Oct 3. 10 Replies

Bunga Bakawali or Tan Hua (Epiphyllum oxypetallum)

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 21. 13 Replies

"Healthy Soil Microbes / Healthy People"

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 20. 26 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on November 11, 2013 at 9:42pm

South of Spokane is the Palouse farmland, created by Pliocene deposits of an inland sea, overlaid by basaltic flows. Volcanic ash blew in for eons from the east caused by the buildup of the Rockies and from the west caused by the Cascade eruptions creating very rich soils. Glaciation and ice age floods created fine dust or loess that blew in and covered the basalts. Water flows through the basalts, watering the soils.

These features are the same as the rich grain fields I saw in Turkey, caused by the same geologic forces. The major difference I saw was women dressed head to toe in heavy coats, with bandanas on their heads, using scythes to cut the wheat, gather it in bunches and load it on wagons pulled by mules. Harvest time in Turkey has very hot temperatures, well into the 90 degrees +. I saw no harvesting equipment such as we have in the Palouse. 

Palouse is named after the horses, introduced by the Spaniards in the south and east. The horses multiplied and reached the northwest around 1700. The Nez Perce tribe learned to train them and changed from fish, hunter, gatherer people to a more active hunter group.  

Well, that is a lot more than you want to know, I am sure. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 11, 2013 at 12:55pm

Fall in May's garden in British Columbia

Lots of ideas for autumn color plants:  maple trees, burning bush sumac, native big leaf maple, oak, sheltered hardy fuchsias, and ever-blooming roses, bright red rose named 'Trumpeter' (for Louis Armstrong). All in naturalistic settings. 

Comment by Randall Smith on November 11, 2013 at 7:27am

Speaking of mushrooms, around these parts (Indiana), the puffballs didn't emerge this fall. I found two small ones. But I did find a large "hen in the woods" (and it goes by other names). It's really good tasting, but disgustingly gritty with dirt, no matter how much one rinses and soaks.

As many of you know, I'm a big time forager--berries and nuts (and mushrooms). I've already cracked open about 500 almond pods and am currently working on hickorys. Black walnuts are drying on top of the wood burner.

Especially for Daniel: here's what to look forward to when your persimmon tree matures! 

Comment by Steph S. on November 10, 2013 at 10:26am

Those are cool mushrooms and I love the peppers you got from your garden.

Comment by Sentient Biped on November 10, 2013 at 10:01am

Spud, you can always come and visit the mushrooms  :-)

I think Im an odd person.  When mowing or doing chores, I try to avoid damaging the mushrooms.  I want them to do their thing and live and make spores and then shrivel after doing what they have to do.

Now and then I look into the kits for growing edible fungi.  This should be a good place to do that.  I tried one from Home Depot and they did grow but it was way too expensive for just a few mushrooms.

For some reason it's sideways.  This is the largest of the ginkgo trees I grew from seeds.  A lot of leaves have already fallen.

I like this time of the year, and this time of day.  Fire in fireplace / woodstove.  Dogs watching the fire, with more interest than they look at TV.  Ning sleeping.  Tater tots in the oven.  Drizzling and chilly outside.  Mushrooms growing in the yard :-)  No major chores to do, beyond the usual homework.  Thinking about what seeds to plant in a few months.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 10, 2013 at 9:22am

Sentient, I'm jealous of all the mushrooms at your place, but I was pleased to see some white fungi in the soil I removed from the watermelon site this spring, and put back yesterday.

Just read about the ginkgo biloba tree.  Didn't know it was a tree until I read your posts about them a few months ago.  Amazing how long they've been around, how big they get, how long they live, and how hardy they are.  The leaves are also interesting.

Comment by Plinius on November 10, 2013 at 12:25am

Thanks for the link, Sentient! At last people as mad as I am, people who can watch a video of a tree and be happy!

Comment by Sentient Biped on November 9, 2013 at 3:32pm

Chris, this link is to "The ginkgo pages" kept by Cor Kwant.  I think she's in Holland.  Sorry your's didn't make it!

Comment by Sentient Biped on November 9, 2013 at 3:30pm

Jon, it's an interesting question.  I just added some info to your discussion on mycelia.  I have been using mycorrhiza inoculum when I plant trees and shrubs.  I don't know if it actually does anything.  Plus, the evidence is my soil contains a lot of native fungi, based on the number of mushrooms growing now.  This seems to be their time of year.

I image the soil is full of spores, so all we should need is to include some healthy soil in our raised beds and gardens, to get it started. 

So why do I use an inoculum?  I can't say.  I just do.

That photo shows some little mushrooms growing among bearded iris rhizomes, in a raised bed.  I don't know if those mushrooms originate from the soil, or from spores, or from the inoculum.  They don't seem to hurt the irises.  What it tells me is the bed is populated with some kinds of mycelium even though the bed is less than a year old.

Comment by Plinius on November 9, 2013 at 2:06pm

Your ginkgo looks lovely, Sentient! My seedling didn't survive last winter.


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