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Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Squirrels.
bees.
Cheap gardening.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

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An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

Permaculture, John D. Liu

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 3. 8 Replies

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Comment by k.h. ky on January 31, 2014 at 4:03pm
Sentient, I split the large dog food bags open and use them in my flower beds to keep the weeds down. I put them under the mulch around shrubs too. You just need to be careful not to get them to close to the plants so water can still get to the soil around the tops of them.
Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2014 at 3:52pm

Joan, thanks for the tip about hard water filters.  I've started looking for them.  

I have a house water softener that puts an small amount of salt in the water.  Such a small amount that I can't taste it, so I've thought of trying it on the garden, but haven't yet.

Of course it's been broken for quite a few years.  I don't want to pay to have it repaired, but have been to lazy to try repairing it myself.  Maybe this year.

Comment by Daniel W on January 31, 2014 at 3:42pm

Beautiful frozen evergreens!

I don't know about the plastic vs. clay pots.  Things seem to do so well in plastic pots.  They need good drainage.

I think there have been studies showing either can work.

The biggest negative for me with nursery pots is they are black plastic, and absorb the sun's heat.  That can really overheat the soil.  The positive is I have lots sitting around, so they are free.  Also, lightweight.  Easy to get plants out of them, they usually just slide out with minimal root damage. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2014 at 3:34pm

That Ice Fog does make things look attractive, as do all forms of frozen H2O.  Wikipedia says it's called pogonip in the western US.  I've never heard that word.

Freezing fog happens at 32 F or below, Ice Fog or Frozen Fog happens at negative 20 F or below.  Usually negative 30 F or below.

Frog sounds like what it should be called : )

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 2:38pm

Daniel, I like your idea of lining clay pots with plastic. One of the reasons I like clay is that the roots have access to air that plastic prevents. It comes at a cost, however, in that clay dries out very fast so there has to be a source of water constantly or frequently replacing the evaporated water. A task that I don't like, so, automatic watering with timed supply works. It does require equipment and maintenance. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 2:33pm

Spud, you can get in-line-filters for hard water. Whether they work or not, I can't tell you. I use filters at each faucet; I have had mine for probably 15 years and the only way they break is if I leave them undrained when an unexpected freeze comes along. So, I got into the habit of taking them all off on Oct 1 week. 

Rain Bird has a system similar to what I use, so you can get an idea of what to look for. Any good garden supply place has them. I think I paid around $10 each when I bought mine and I use it as a pressure regulator, and mine has the ability to distribute fertilizer through the system without clogging.

With a drip system, you have to be very careful to keep the water pressure correct or you will blow out the hoses very fast. I have had all my soaker hoses for more than 10 years, and though expensive to begin with, and needing repairs on occasion because of accidentally slicing them with a shovel or trowel, or a blow out, they are very easy to repair. I keep a box of parts handy and the tools needed in it so I have everything handy when I need it and don't have to figure out where the right tools are. 

Here is a Rain Bird system:

http://www.rainbird.com/homeowner/products/drip/FaucetConnectionKit...

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 2:19pm

We have had about two weeks of weather inversion, low hanging fog, freezing temperatures, the trees and everything covered with a very light layer of fallen frozen fog. There must be a name for that!

Frog? Fozen? fozenfal? Anyway, it was beautiful, but not enough snow for our needed winter pack. We are about 20% low this winter and next summer may suffer the effects. 

Today, fozenfal lifted, sunlight streams, and this is the view out my daughter's dining room window in the forest of NE WA state. 

Comment by Daniel W on January 31, 2014 at 12:46pm

If there is a surplus of large clay pots, maybe lining them with plastic would help with water conservation? I've been doing that with wooden containers. I use the tough woven plastic from big dog food bags. Other plastic would work equally well. I line the sides and part of the bottom, leaving opening for drainage.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2014 at 12:41pm

I overestimated how large the cheap containers were.  When I stretched-out my hands to the diameter I remember them being, and measured between my hands, it was more like 2.5 feet instead of 3-4.

I liked the $17 one because it had double-wall construction which would help it moderate the temperature.

If I use one of my plastic trash cans or containers, I'll insulate them.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2014 at 12:36pm

Joan, I love the look of moss.  If I ever use clay pots, I'll try the buttermilk.

I've never tried drip irrigation, even though it sounds like a great idea, because I thought the heads would clog-up too easily with my very hard water.  Do they?

 

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