Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky on Monday. 8 Replies

Potatoes. Growing the perfect food.

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Sentient Biped Oct 11. 12 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sky God Oct 10. 3 Replies

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 10. 9 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Annie Thomas Oct 3. 10 Replies

Bunga Bakawali or Tan Hua (Epiphyllum oxypetallum)

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 21. 13 Replies

"Healthy Soil Microbes / Healthy People"

Started by Sentient Biped. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 20. 26 Replies

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Comment by Patricia on December 11, 2013 at 6:17pm

The views out my back & front doors this morning......

Comment by Patricia on December 11, 2013 at 6:15pm

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!.......no matter what number, Daniel & spouse!!!


Comment by Sentient Biped on December 11, 2013 at 6:02pm

Chris and Joan, thank you!  It's been a year.  Officially 1 year, unofficially 17 years.

We didn't know what to do, so we didn't do anything.  Just an old married couple.

Comment by Plinius on December 11, 2013 at 5:31am

I missed the celebration? Congratulations, Daniel & Ning! I hope every day will bring you something to celebrate!

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 11, 2013 at 2:05am

Happy first anniversary Daniel and Ning. I hope you have a very special day of celebration and that the coming year brings you excellent health, active minds, and splendid joy! 

Fondly, Joan

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 9, 2013 at 10:50am

Sentient, your method of defeating moles sounds like a good idea, and I plan on doing if I have trouble with the critters when I move to the country.

Temperature this morning was -10 F (-23 C).  Yowzer!  I spent 10 minutes outside with heavy mittens on when it was -6 and my fingers were hurting.

Comment by Sentient Biped on December 9, 2013 at 8:28am
Randall, the main effort is in getting the materials. Once thats done, I can say 'Today I will cut the boards' and leave it at that. Then 'Today I will drill the holes....today I will screw them together.... etc. There is no hurry and no pressure to conplete a bed. Then one by one they are built.

I will be glad to put the last one in place.

For me its deer and rabbits and voles. The moles st least do some work for me!

And this freeze. Damn, I hope it doesnt kill too much of my trees and shrubs.
Comment by Randall Smith on December 9, 2013 at 7:47am

Daniel, you go to a lot of trouble (i.e., work!) to have a raised garden. Like adding a wire base. Mercy. I'm shamed to admit all I do is dig a trench, toss in seeds, and cover.

As far as what the extension service says about "not bothering to kill moles", I say "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?" They play havoc in my yard, killing grass by tunneling, making those mounds, and getting in the garden. They virtually destroyed a sweet corn patch one year. Do you remember Elmer Fudd's "Kill the Rabbit" song? Well, that's my mole mantra. 

Comment by Sentient Biped on December 8, 2013 at 11:24am

Farmer's Almanac prediction for local conditions, now:

Dec 5-11: Rainy periods, turning cool;


Comment by Sentient Biped on December 8, 2013 at 11:08am


Thanks for the poem.  Now I know!  Very nice.  Quiet and thoughtful.  That's kind of how this cold spell has come here too.

Randall, the mole hill thing is different but it works.  They make big soft hills all over these 2 acres.  Lots of them.  If we mow them, they blow huge billowing dust clouds.  Stomp them down, it just makes hard little hills.  I guess the other option is use a garden rake to spread them over the lawn.  The grass will grow up through them.

But they do make nice softly ground soil.  I take a wheelbarrow around and a flat shovel and collect them.   They don't have hard clots, and it mixes easily with compost.

I don't know if the hills serve a purpose for the moles - maybe a cover for their entrance, or a summit for them to perch upon in the night.  Maybe this removal annoys them.

I don't know what I will do when the raised beds are filled.  Probably rake them over the surrounding soil.  The state extension site says don't bother trying to kill them.   Plus they have an ecological role, eating underground bugs worms and maggots. 

For raised beds, I do a layer of soil then a layer of compost, then a layer of soil etc.  I mix together, then smooth it over.   They are 8 feet by 4 feet, by 1 foot deep.  I don't want moles in the raised bed, so they have a bottom made from chicken wire or hardware cloth.


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