Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Members: 170
Latest Activity: on Friday

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Permaculture U. of Mass

Started by Joan Denoo Jan 16. 0 Replies

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry Dec 26, 2014. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 25, 2014. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10, 2014. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6, 2014. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1, 2014. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30, 2014. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16, 2014. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8, 2014. 21 Replies

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Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 8, 2014 at 10:59am

Joan, I'm putting in Dichondra.  Originally wanted wooly thyme but couldn't find any locally and too much in a hurry to order online. Stopped by Home Depot this a.m. and got two more packages. And I'll take your advice Randall.  A planting I go ...

Comment by king on May 8, 2014 at 10:42am
So Randall carrots
Comment by king on May 8, 2014 at 10:42am
So Randall carrots
Comment by Daniel W on May 8, 2014 at 10:28am

Most of my seedlings are via starting indoors, in containers.  Some I pre-sprout on moist paper towel in a ziplock bag.  Many, I start on a heating mat.  Currently I have seedlings not yet germinated for squashes, zucchinis, cucumbers, bush beans.

Direct seeding works for me with brassicas, radishes, carrots, marigolds, turnips, mesclun.  They don't mind the cool soil.  Critters don't eat them too much.  I was surprised yesterday to see that a row of radishes was untouched, while the row of spinach a foot away was completely eaten.  Probably by rabbits or deer.

I had trouble getting snowpeas to germinate until I covered them with chicken wire.  I discovered then almost all of the seeds became plants.  My thought there, is birds were eating the seeds or small plants.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 8, 2014 at 10:20am

It always amazes me how some seeds germinate and others don't. Ex: radishes yes, parsnips no. I'd say, Barbara, toss a few more seeds in the bare spots, tamp down, and water lightly.

King: to answer your question as to what I grow--just about everything, but usually only one of a kind, except tomatoes.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 7, 2014 at 10:31pm

I don't have great luck with sowing seeds. Usually, not always, I start seeds either in my home in small pots where I can regulate the water and feeding. When they are up and growing well, I put them in the garden. I do the same with moss rose, except I plant the seeds in fiber pots because they don't like their roots disturbed.

Right now I am looking at replacing my wooly thyme because it has been in the walkways for 18 years and look very ragged. I think I will replace them with another treadable plant. I will get the seeds instead of the plants. 

Treadable plants, i.e  


Thymus praecox 'Pseudoanuginosus', Woolly Thyme 

Mentha requienii Corsican Mint

Thymus praecox 'Elfin' (Creeping Thyme)

If anyone has ideas for treadable groundcovers, please let me know. I am open to any ideas. 

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 7, 2014 at 9:27pm

Randall, I feel your pain over the dried out seeds.  I put in a walkway using pavers and decided to plant dichondra seeds along the edges and between the pavers. Alot of the seeds didn't come up even though I watered.  Now I have to go back and re-seed, but I'm afraid the water needed to germinate the new seed will be too much for the existing seedlings.  Any suggestions? 

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 7, 2014 at 9:21pm

It's hard to imagine being in a home as long as you and Randall have.  I just purchased my home in January 2013. Some friends thought I was crazy to buy at my age, but I decided it was my last hurrah and I wanted to have a garden and space for my little dog to run and play. Now to just get some flowers and perennials to grow!

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 7, 2014 at 9:18pm

I guess I'm lucky that the shrubs and tree I planted were able to take hold.  I wanted color and am on a limited budget so I purchased crape myrtles, added amendment, food and watered every week and voila, they are growing.  My house is on a zero lot line and the lot is very small, 40' wide so I needed things that didn't have invasive roots. I bought small 6' dwarf trees, and a 25' tree. They should flower by the end of the season and next year should make my back yard look a little more alive. I have space for another small tree and I would definitely like to add some kind of fruit or citrus tree. And the best part was I was able to do it myself. :)

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 7, 2014 at 9:12pm

Joan, I guess I'm lucky that I don't have to deal with caliche in my yard.  It's around the foundation of the house and that's all. The rest of my yard is clay. As most of the houses in my area I deal with cracks in the walls due to the contracting of the clay as it absorbs moisture and then dries out. Mostly drying out during the past few years.


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