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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 173
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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Living in the forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud 21 hours ago. 6 Replies

Good plants that volunteer.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Idaho Spud on Monday. 17 Replies

Air-pots

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W May 2. 2 Replies

Air-pots

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 2. 1 Reply

Rooftop Gardens

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 3. 20 Replies

How to Make a Food Forest Suburb

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 1. 1 Reply

Fantastic Fungi - a film by Louie Schwartzberg

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 28. 1 Reply

Michael Pollan On Joel Salatin's Polyface Farm

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Mar 22. 1 Reply

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Comment by Idaho Spud on August 31, 2014 at 3:15pm

Daniel, when you mentioned dahlia tubers, I looked them up on Wikipedia, and it says people eat them.

Comment by Daniel W on August 31, 2014 at 3:14pm
nice year,not mice year!
Comment by Daniel W on August 31, 2014 at 3:11pm
Patricia, thank you! Its been a mice year for exploring gardening.

Spud, I dont know if dahlia tubers are edible! I think they callthem potato flower because they look like potatoes.

Given how well you did with melons, I bet you can create way togarden in your alkaline soul. I read sulfur is a good way to acidify soil.
raised beds witn your own formulated soil might work.
Comment by Idaho Spud on August 31, 2014 at 1:00pm

Daniel, Nice looking flowers.  Morning glories are a favorite of mine.  Have you ever eaten the dahlia tubers?

I read some new articles written by my extension agent that have discouraged me.  I know my soil and water is highly alkaline, but he claims there is little we can do about it except plant things that like alkaline soil, or at least don't want much acidity.

He says it's almost impossible to grow blueberries here, and even though the nurseries sell them, they all die, as well as some other acid-loving plants, like Azaleas and Rhododendrons.

He said it might be possible to grow dwarf blueberries in large containers full of potting soil, but we couldn't use the highly alkaline well water.  We would have to use rain water or something like that. 

I've noticed Home Depot sells lime, and wondered why the frak they do that.  The extension agent said do NOT use lime, wood ashes, or egg shells in eastern Idaho.  

The wood ashes are mainly used for potassium, but our soil already has a very high potassium level, plus the fact that most wood ashes are alkaline..

Egg shells are mainly used for calcium, but our soil already has too much calcium.

I'm discouraged because most of what I want to grow likes acid soil.  Bummer.

Comment by Daniel W on August 31, 2014 at 12:08pm










The Four O'clocks were my 2014 flower experiment. They are mostly a heritage / historic / heirloom plant, and don't fit into nursery priorities of selling plants in bloom that can be arranged like knick-knacks. They also probably can't be sold in bloom. They were a lot of fun to grow. I saved seeds for next year. In my area, they might also be perennials, we'll see.

Ning bought a gate and wanted a vine. That was in June. I found some morning glory seeds at the store and planted them. I told him there might not be enough time for them to grow and bloom, and might be eaten by deer and rabbits. But they did grow and bloom.

I also told Ning he should dig up his dahlias in case there was a hard freeze. He didn't. There was a hard freeze, a historic freeze. They grew anyway, and are very dramatic. In China they are called "potato flower' because the roots are sort of like potatoes.
Comment by Daniel W on August 31, 2014 at 9:42am

Late summer / early fall, almost.  Summer in my area is brief.  I had a wonderful time harvesting and tasting the summer tree fruits and annual fruits (tomatoes, peppers, beans, zucchinis, summer squash...), growing and enjoying flowers, propagating and grafting, and watching trees thrive. 

 

This year I had my first usable crop of okra.  That took some effort here.  Okra is really a hot weather, tropical crop.  I finally got the hang of successful grafting - really easy once you know how.   I did dozens of grafts, which will give me something to watch this fall and next spring.  The best flowers were ones I never grew before - four o'clocks.   Hollyhocks are taking off now too  There were failures - learnings - that I hope will benefit me for the future.  Especially, deer marauded a number of trees that I was hoping would take off and grow, and fungal disease had a big effect on the bearded iris bed, which I probably over-nurtured leading to the susceptibility.  Three young trees died - a plum, I don't know what killed it but it wasnt thriving even from the start.  A Korean dogwood, ditto.  And a madrone - I planted it last fall.  I read they are near-impossible to transplant.  I have home-grown replacements for these, a Hollywood plum started from a cutting, a gingko started from seed, and a Japanese maple rescued as a seed-volunteer that has taken off nicely and needs a new location.

 

Not a bad year in the garden.  Very nice.

 

 

Comment by Randall Smith on August 29, 2014 at 7:30am

Don, I'm wondering if putting down Preen in my asparagus patch in early spring would help? I hate to spray. It's about this time of year that I'm almost ready for a freeze to kill the weeds.

Comment by Don on August 28, 2014 at 7:43am

Weeding is a tedious, unending shore for everybody, Randall.  My soil is pretty loose, though, which helps.  As a writer, I have the advantage (in this respect) of being here at home all day, and I welcome a break from the desk every few hours.  In the growing season, my hoe stands right outside the door.  Maybe 20 minutes every other day is all it takes to stay on top of things.  Though the asparagus bed is more work.

Comment by Randall Smith on August 28, 2014 at 6:42am

I've been garden weeding a lot lately. Mostly spreading crabgrasss, trying to stop it from producing seeds. Of course, it's hopeless. I certainly envy Don's garden from what I've seen in his (your) photos. 

Comment by Don on August 26, 2014 at 7:29am

Cabbages, peppers, melons.

 

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