Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
What's your gardening style?
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Wild Parsnip - It can burn skin.
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Dominic Florio on April 15, 2013 at 6:40pm

It loves to be cut.  It doesn't freeze here obviously  but it gets all woody and bare.  I cut back to nothing and it becomes a beautiful mound.

Comment by A Former Member on April 15, 2013 at 6:34pm

My Italian oregano is getting too lanky, I think. I can just cut it back hard and it will fill out again, like new?

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 15, 2013 at 12:43pm

How to Test Your Soil - a Quick Primer

From "The Herb Gardener". Spring is a good time for testing soil, and it is easy to do. Some you can do yourself, some require an inexpensive teat kit for the hardware, and you can send soil samples to USA Dept. of Agriculture. All instructions are here. 

I have different soils in different parts of my garden. Some plants prefer acidic soils, some alkaline. Information on these factors can easily be found on the internet. 

It won't be long and I will be getting my hands deeply into the soil. That is the best part of spring. 

Hope you are doing well and that you see to it that you have some fun.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 15, 2013 at 7:15am

Thanks for the clay antidote video Dallas.  Very interesting.

Comment by Plinius on April 15, 2013 at 1:31am

Thanks Dallas, that was good info! Like Joan says, our mothers didn't have access to information and merely followed tradition. I know my mother was put in a job when 12 years old - from that time she read nothing except a bible and an antique cookbook. How lucky we are!

I enjoyed the film very much, lots of info there!

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 14, 2013 at 5:49pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 14, 2013 at 4:36pm

Dallas, you are a real jewel! Your incredible site find, "Eating clay", reveals so many different examples of an evolved development. With your research about chalk, we have information to which our mothers and grandmothers didn't have access.

My grandmother used to tell us about her youngest son, my uncle Orville, ate coal. Her doctor told her a child who eats coal needs the minerals it contains. That would been about 1915. Folk medicine may have some credibility.

The animals  and birds shown in the film seem to have this all pretty well figured out, including predatory enemies.  

Have you ever seen butterflies or lady bugs on a seep hole? A very lovely sight we used to enjoy as kids at Lake Chatcolet in Idaho.

Butterflies at the drinking hole

Here is an interesting project:

720,000 ladybugs released

Comment by A Former Member on April 14, 2013 at 2:56pm

@ Chris: Well, you would know. Still, that leaves me curious as to why she would do it. I thought perhaps I'd see what I could find online. I was thinking chalk must surely be made from limestone, which indeed it is: 

Chalk (pron.: /ˈɔːk/) is a soft, white, porous sedimentary rock, a form oflimestone composed of the mineral calcite. Calcite is calcium carbonate or CaCO3. It forms under reasonably deep marine conditions from the gradual accumulation of minute calcite plates (coccoliths) shed from micro-organisms called coccolithophores. It is common to find chert or flint nodules embedded in chalk. Chalk can also refer to other compounds including magnesium silicateand calcium sulfate.

Since it is a form of calcium, it's reasonable to assume that kitchen lore would encourage eating it if it was believed that spinach used up your existing calcium. Still, it doesn't sound very appetizing. 

Under the uses for chalk, wikipedia does not list any culinary uses, except in toothpaste and as an antacid. When I google "adding chalk to spinach" or "eating chalk in spinach" I can't find anything.

Perhaps that was just a regional thing.  

Also, all this talk about eating chalk reminds me about how animals eat clay to counteract toxins in plants, as seen in this video:

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 14, 2013 at 2:43pm
What a nice site to come to upon waking, yes, I said waking ... I didn't wake up until 11:00 AM. Oh my goodness, what a good life I have.
"It's spring. We are so excited we wet our plants!" That is what we do. And I wet my pants in the garden the other day... couldn't make it inside. Oh well, age has its advantages. I can just claim age, not senility.
Chris, your turnip green dish makes my mouth water.
Annie, I love beet tops fixed that way.
Sentient, how are you feeling? I'm thinking of you.
Amer, do you live in the mountains or on the plane? From the Google Earth, it looks like you live right o the border between mountains and plane.
My son, Craig, lives in Littleton, Colorado, right on the break between the Great Planes and the Rockies. It is a stormy place; can't decide if it is mountain weather or planes weather. Very heavy snowfall there.
Spud, how are you doing?
Comment by Plinius on April 14, 2013 at 1:38pm

Thanks for the info, Dallas! And I think she added chalk; she was a fundie who never joked, so what she told me was what she believed herself.


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