Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
What's your gardening style?
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Wild Parsnip - It can burn skin.
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

What the heck is hugelkultur? How does it save water?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo 21 hours ago. 5 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo yesterday. 2 Replies

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo on Tuesday. 0 Replies

Sugar Baby

Started by Don. Last reply by Don on Sunday. 11 Replies

Evans Bali cherry

Started by Don. Last reply by Don on Sunday. 4 Replies


Started by Čenek Sekavec. Last reply by Idaho Spud on Saturday. 4 Replies

Some pictures from my garden

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 26. 7 Replies

The Next Green Revolution May Rely on Microbes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sentient Biped Jun 30. 2 Replies

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Comment by Sentient Biped on December 3, 2013 at 1:14pm

Found what looks like a reasonable lab and plan to send a sample.  We'll see what happens.

Spud I hope you didn't nail  that bug with anything too solid, like a hammer!

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 3, 2013 at 7:50am

Sentient, I reached up to squash your gif bug, figured it was a gif before my finger reached it, but nailed it anyway, just to be sure.

I've had bugs that look similar eating my dried corn and corn meal this year.

Comment by Randall Smith on December 2, 2013 at 7:43am

I had my soil tested years ago (like over 30), discovered it was too alkaline. Bought my own soil testing kit to see if I had acidified it enough (with sulfur). It hardly changed! So every year I continue to add nitrogen (horse and cow manure plus more sulfur). I can't seem to add enough. No wonder I can't grow blueberries. Good luck, Daniel.

Comment by Patricia on December 1, 2013 at 1:12pm

My cats would go berserk Sentient!

My husband buys his own soil testing kits to do it himself. I don't know anything about it but he seems satisfied with the results. He also took agriculture in high school, so he does know some things.

Comment by Sentient Biped on December 1, 2013 at 11:11am

This was making me crazy until I realized it was a gif....   :-)

Comment by Sentient Biped on December 1, 2013 at 8:44am

Has anyone here had their soil tested?

I'm interested in having mine tested but the WA state extension office apparently doesn't test.  Joan, maybe you can correct me on that.  If so, that leaves commercial labs  I don't know which ones to try, expense, reliability, usefulness of the reports.

If you have had soil tested, did you find the info useful?

Comment by Sentient Biped on November 30, 2013 at 5:10pm

Joan, that's something to take into consideration.  The garden and its products should be pleasurable.    Bad odors do not make for a pleasurable experience.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 30, 2013 at 3:01pm

As to urine in the garden. My Dad peed in the garden and its rank smell, just as sometimes cat pee smells terrible. It does soak in, but I don't like it. I pull a vegetable, bring it to the house, and the kitchen gets the anointed plant aroma.  Not my idea of a garden being a pleasure to everyone. A little common sense would help. 

I visited a tavern in Belgium, owned by generations of my ancestors. The urinal was out back of the brick building. Centuries of urine sanctification, soaked into the brick, smelled of raw sewage. The first row of vegetables was broccoli, and they were magnificent! It appears these brassicas were on hallowed ground. I must confess, cooked with butter and salt, served, they tasted delicious ... no remnant of bodily fluid smells. I don't remember an outhouse. There must have been one for the ladies and for men doing their other elimination process. 

Honey pots in Asia appeared on the streets hanging from poles across their shoulders; in the fields people dipped into the pot and, if I remember correctly, sprayed it over the vegetables. Please correct me if I remember incorrectly. 

Comment by Sentient Biped on November 30, 2013 at 10:30am

Salt has been discussed as a potential negative.  Some articles recommend not using "liquid gold" in clay soils, and diluting it various strong.  A California doctor uses his urine for plant food, and adjusted his diet to reduce salt.  Which is the healthy thing to do.

Googling on the topic -I had no idea so many people were doing that.   Amazing.

I  have a ginkgo tree in the space my dogs use in the back yard.  It's several times larger than it's sibling in the front yard.  I'm sure it's the doggies' contributions.

Comment by Randall Smith on November 30, 2013 at 8:09am

Since I live "in the country", I can pee in the garden anytime I want. It's usually because I'm too lazy to go into the house. But, scientifically speaking, I've done in the compost pile to add nitrogen. And I've done it around my sweet corn patch in an attempt to "scare off" raccoons (that doesn't work). I've also done it to kill weeds (salt)! Bottom line? I just do it because I can!


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