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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
What's your gardening style?
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Wild Parsnip - It can burn skin.
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Squirrels.
bees.
Cheap gardening.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sentient Biped Sep 7. 4 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 27. 2 Replies

Sugar Baby

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Aug 24. 11 Replies

Evans Bali cherry

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Aug 24. 4 Replies

Asparagus

Started by Čenek Sekavec. Last reply by Idaho Spud Aug 23. 4 Replies

Some pictures from my garden

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 26. 7 Replies

The Next Green Revolution May Rely on Microbes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Sentient Biped Jun 30. 2 Replies

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Sentient Biped on January 18, 2014 at 10:12am


picture source: Wikipedia commons.

Comment by Sentient Biped on January 18, 2014 at 10:09am

Changed the group badge, so anxious for Spring!  Thank you Chris for the beech branches we've been viewing the past few months.

Comment by Sentient Biped on January 16, 2014 at 5:29pm

In two weeks is the local home improvement show.  Most likely they will have several sunroom displays.  Something to look forward to!

Comment by Sentient Biped on January 16, 2014 at 5:27pm

On seed catalogs -

I like what Joan had to say about goring to Dave's Garden website.  I have not done that much, but there is a lot of info there.

Gardenweb is good for some discussions but they may not allow discussing specific companies.  Also a lot of the forums I look at have too many naysayers who are just generally negative, and people who like to sound like they know it all without really being that knowledgeable.  Some kind of troll on their pet topics.

My experiences - you can google on the names of these places...

I like Victory Seeds.  Heritage, open pollinated seeds, looks like good northwest varieties. They sent the seeds promptly.  Limited selection.

I really like Seedsavers.  Again, open pollinated heritage varieties.  They are dedicated to preserving many varieties that would otherwise be lost.  I got my starts of multiplier onions, topset onions, and Inchelium Red garlic from them, and have been growing those for13 years.  Also some beans, tomatoes, peppers.  Everything I got form them grew and did as expected.

I like Southern Exposure even though  I'm not southern.  I ordered some short-season okra from them.  This area is not good for okra, but I have some ideas.  Nice catalog, all heritage varieties.

My guilty pleasure is Burpee.  I like their catalog and I do order from them, even when I insist I'm only ordering heritage varieties.  I think they are reliable and fast, at least for me.  Large selection. Nice pictures. 

Those are all prompt, have good solid varieties.

I agree with Joan about Wayside Gardens, which I think now has the same owner as Park's seeds.  Way overpriced for undersized items.  Whiteflower Farms, ditto.  The items I got from the didn't grow, and I paid too much.  Never, never, never, never order from Van Bourgondien.  Years ago they had some good items.  That is bulbs and perennials, not seeds.  I ordered from them a few times.  The last time, they sent items that should have been planted in July or August, in November.  They were dried out, brittle, and several did not grow.  They continue to spam me over and over, with "sales" and stuff even though I keep blocking their web address- they seem to change their address or get around it. 

Many years ago I ordered a fig tree from Wayside.  It was overpriced, but I wanted a fig tree and didn't know about other resources then.  For something like $30, it was about 1 foot tall, a stick.  It took quite a number of years to get figs, and now is a very nice tree and has lots of figs.  Really not bad, just took a long time to get there.  Since then they have been selling figs trees with the same picture, under a different name, then a 3rd name.  You can get bigger, better, cheaper, from other sources.

Like Raintree nursery - they have been reliable.  I've ordered many fruit trees from them.  I've been happy with every order.

One Green World - they sent way undersized trees, they don't list the tree size.

I don't have much experience with Territorial Seeds.

For bearded iris, the best experience for me is Schreiner's.  Big fat healthy rhizomes, bloom the next year.  Rhizomes from some of the nurseries above, skinny, dried out, some died.

Sounds like there are too many places I don't care for.  But some I do.  It's all based on experience.

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 16, 2014 at 3:17pm

Spud, I like your idea about finding out about seed companies. So many that I have trusted for years have been sold and gone downhill. i.e. Wayside Gardens. I learned about Wayside when I was majoring in horticulture at WSU in 1955. It was a great company; sadly its reputation has gone down since its sale. 

I agree about Gurney's and Park seed companies. Not the best rated as far as I can tell from gardeners with whom I correspond. 

I have subscribed to Daves Garden for years. It is a to-go-to-place for evaluations by other gardeners. I Bookmarked their seed pages and have not seen the page you recommended. After reading it, I say this is the place to go for getting unbiased information: 

http://davesgarden.com/products/gwd/#b

I don't like getting catalogues in the mail unless I request them because I want to save trees. The internet works great for me, except I love having my Seeds of Change Organic Seeds beside me for relaxing browsing. 

www.seedsofchange.com.

and

http://www.gardeners.com/Outdoor-Gardening/OutdoorGardening_SD,defa... 

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 16, 2014 at 10:19am

Daniel, your sun-room idea sounds good.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 15, 2014 at 12:51pm

I was thinking of starting a new discussion about good and bad results with seed & plant companies, but with a limited number of active members here, it's probably better to use a site that has reviews from gardeners.

I've not been looking long, but I found this site that seems to have quite a few reviews: http://davesgarden.com/products/gwd/#b I've not been able to get the reviews to stop dropping words at the end of the window, but other than that, it seems to be OK.

So far I've noticed a large number of bad reviews for Gurney's and Park, two companies that send me catalogs without me requesting them.  I've received 5 or 6 catalogs this year that I didn't order, and I'm always suspicious of those companies.

What started this thinking is the Gurney's catalog that has 50% off before 2/12/14.  I was tempted, but after reading many negative reviews, ordering from Gurney's does not seem like a good idea.  Other catalogs that I didn't order are Totally Tomatoes and Vermont Bean seed Company.

Territorial Seed Company also sends me catalogs since I ordered seeds from them last year, but I don't remember if I told them to or not.  With my limited dealings with them, I can't say anything good or bad about them.  However, I do wonder why they showed the Moon and Stars watermelons as being purple, but mine were green.  Perhaps I'll email them and ask.

The site I referenced above has mostly positive reviews of Territorial, but there are a few complaints about the high price of their seeds and shipping.

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 13, 2014 at 1:46pm

Safe journey Randall! 

Comment by Randall Smith on January 13, 2014 at 7:17am

FYI, I'm headed to Florida (Mexico Beach) for 17 days. I'll be back. Maybe it'll be warmer by then!

Comment by Sentient Biped on January 10, 2014 at 8:14am
That sounds good about the robin. Maybe if moss is growing on it, the humidity is up.
 

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