Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 170
Latest Activity: on Saturday

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Permaculture U. of Mass

Started by Joan Denoo Jan 16. 0 Replies

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry Dec 26, 2014. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 25, 2014. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10, 2014. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6, 2014. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1, 2014. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30, 2014. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16, 2014. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8, 2014. 21 Replies

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Comment by k.h. ky on Saturday
Starting plants from compost sprouts is one of my favorite things. Often l don't know what it is until it matures.
The poppies are a puzzle. My neighbors have great luck with them. And azaleas. I can grow neither. But I can grow several things they can not. Just one of the mysteries of gardening.
Comment by Joan Denoo on Saturday

Kathy, isn't it a great treat to salvage the things that come up in unexpected places such as the compost heap. I have a Ponderosa pine growing that is now more than 20 feet tall that came out of the compost bin. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on Saturday

I enjoy reading everyone's posts and sharing experiences. We should become Master Gardeners in no time. 

I am concerned about not getting the drainage problem solved before planting a tree. I also agree that amended soil is not the best way to go, using the same soil as came out of the ground with maybe a small ratio of other planting soil. I also agree that the tree should be well mulched after planting. The mulch and all those wonderful organisms will work down into the soil and create room for the new, tender roots of the tree. Also, keep the mulch away from the tree trunk. You don't want mice girdling the trunk; that will kill it. 

Comment by Daniel W on Saturday

Chris, I hope you feel better soon!

Felaine, those thieves are terrible. I don't know what to say!

Kathy, I don't know why my poppies replanted OK. I suspect it's the timing, before growth is underway, and the have time to adjust. Or it's just a variety that is tolerant. Or luck.  I grew them from seeds more than a decade ago, too.

I'm thinking about this Spring.  I don't think I can keep up with all of my ambitions.  Maybe in addition to the veggies, some old time annual flowers.  Marigolds and nasturtiums should be easy.  And the Four O'clocks again.  I really liked those.

Comment by k.h. ky on Saturday
Daniel, l read your blog on transplanting poppies. I have never been able to transplant poppy. From the blog I'm using the same method but I water them before attempting to move so the dirt will adhere to the roots. I wonder if I'm overwatering after l move it.
It took me fifteen years to get one started. It gets new babies every year now.
Comment by Daniel W on Friday

Kathy, 2 peaches from a 3-year old seedling?  That's wonderful!

I have some seedlings from genetic dwarf peaches.  I wonder how long they will take.

I do find that peaches grow fast.  Here, only a few varieties can grow, due to leaf curl disease.  I have found 3 disease resistant varieties.  I want to cross them to see if the progeny would be more resistant, or just to play.

Comment by k.h. ky on Friday
I took two ripe peaches off a tree last year that I transplanted out of the compost heap. It always surprises me when that happens. The tree was only three years old too!
Comment by k.h. ky on Friday
Joan, most areas can be used for growing something. Holes can be enlarged and soil amended. I've found that putting the right plant in for the soil conditions is key. As it is true for every place. I often want a tree in a spot the will only support an ornamental grass so I adjust.
I planted a dwarf Japanese grass three years ago that has remained dwarf. It never gets taller than two feet. I like to experiment. I start a lot of plants. I trade and give away a lot too.
Comment by Daniel W on Friday
I dont know the answer to planting in clay solis but I hace a few thoughts. If there are trees snd shrubs around, they must have done ok with the clay. I read that most clay is mineral rich, and good nutrition for plants if the drainage issue is solved.

Most garden experts now recommend, do not fill with amended soil or compost, just use the same soil that came from the hole, and mulch with leaves, straw, or similar.

If other trees are doing fine, that is a hopeful sign.
Comment by Randall Smith on Friday

I'm still wondering why my avocado won't sprout. I'll google it. My radishes ARE sprouting, however!


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