Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

Permaculture, John D. Liu

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 3. 8 Replies

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Comment by Michael R Mills on May 10, 2012 at 6:36pm
Comment by Michael R Mills on May 10, 2012 at 6:19pm

I've started looking for it in Flora - this may take awhile.

It's neither vinca or 4 o'clock

Comment by o on May 10, 2012 at 5:25pm

That looks like vinca minor to me.

I've been enjoying all the conversation lately.  I just  got my garden planted a bit late a couple weeks ago.  I'm in So. AZ so it sounds like most of you are dealing with completely different issues than I am.  I also have a couple dairy goats and am looking forward to getting some laying hens come fall.  Is there a "homesteading" kind of group on AN?

Comment by Annie Thomas on May 10, 2012 at 5:21pm

Dallas Gaytheist- are they a type of four o'clock flowers?  I know there are several varieties.

Comment by A Former Member on May 10, 2012 at 4:56pm

This didn't have a name when I bought it, but the young woman said that it was a tibouchina. Well, it sort of resembles that, when I search for tibouchina images online I cannot find one that matches. Most seem to be shrubs or trees, but this is more like a ground cover. I'm using it in a hanging basket. The flowers open in the morning and drop off by 5 PM or so. Kind of resembles a morning glory flower. Can anyone name it?


Comment by A Former Member on May 10, 2012 at 10:56am

Ooohh, I like the Black Sumatra.


People who raise chickens seem to enjoy it. A former coworker had about 3 or 4 and we used to talk about them from time to time.


Have you seen The Natural History of the Chicken? It's okay. It's not so much a biological history documentary as it is about people who are nuts over raising chickens. Some of them go a little too far, in my opinion. Here's part 1/6, but looks like all of it is posted online.


Comment by Daniel W on May 10, 2012 at 10:33am

Dallas - LOL, my partner might have something to say about that!  Plus, his sister, brother in law, and her grandson (who is named after me) will be staying here from China this summer.  It might be crowded!


From what I have learned about chicken breeds, the commercial egg laying breeds and meat breeds are separate.  The usual meat chicken is a hybrid specially created for meat.  Some breeds are used for both - that would make sense for the hobby person or homesteader but not me since I'm vegetarian.   People do eat Rhode Island Reds, but they are also good egg layers, and have brown eggs which a lot of people prefer even though the nutrition and flavor of brown eggs is the same as white.  There are also chickens descended from Chilean native chickens that lay blue eggs.   There are dozens of chicken breeds, each with its own appearance, performance, and behavior.  


In my town, we are zoned for having up to 3 or 4 hens per yard.  I did have an illegal 5th hen once.  They don't have chicken police here.  Even with a fenced yard and enclosed coop, once in a while a possum or raccoon will get in and kill the best chicken.  It's always the best one, I don't know how they know that.  I have to admit, I enjoy having the ladies here.  They remind me of what I imagine Tyranosaurus rex to look like, only much smaller and with feathers and beaks.  I can't let them have the run of the whole yard, because they like eating garden plants.  Also they dig up the mulch, resulting in more weeds.  But they have a large area under nice shady bamboo, and a big house with lots of roosting room and nest space.


I've used eggshells in compost for years.  I can't imagine why not.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 10, 2012 at 10:13am

Sentinet, your fig tree story reminds me of my experience with a Pomegranate tree.  When I purchased my first house in the California Bay Area,  there was one in the back yard.  After a while, the bark of one branch started sloughing-off, so I cut that branch off before it spread to the rest of the tree.

I stripped it and used it in another part of the garden as a fence stake.  It quickly sprouted new leaves and grew so much fruit that I thought they would rip the new branches off.

Comment by A Former Member on May 9, 2012 at 10:13pm

When you say they're egg laying breeds, do you mean people don't eat them, but the reds are mixed-use, so people do eat them?

Comment by A Former Member on May 9, 2012 at 10:11pm

SB, can I come live with you?

I always heard not to put egg shells in compost. How many hens do you have? No cocks allowed? Hmmm...I'm not sure about liking that.....


Joan, the ending to Animals in Translation? Or that bit about the roosters? Either way I don't remember. It's been too many years.


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