LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Comment by A Former Member on May 20, 2012 at 7:20pm

Sentient, I just watched that Mr. T gay marriage video. That was funny.

Comment by Susan Stanko on May 20, 2012 at 6:35pm

My sister-in-law went there today to by slacks for her son.  Never cared for the store but, this is good news.

Comment by Daniel W on May 20, 2012 at 5:07pm

Shanna, so far you have told us that you take offense when something is not set up specifically for you; you want the group that you just joined to rename itself just for you; without identifying where you are on the spectrum, you apparently  prioritize it based on you coming before others in the march of alphabet soup, you give no credit whatsoever for what has been a 4-year effort at group building, after specific efforts have been made to be inclusive of more people, you specifically exclude intersex people from your favored acronym, and you don't care about people outside the US.  Do you go to new friends' houses for the first time and then tell them you hate the decor and by the way you don't like their street name?

Comment by A Former Member on May 20, 2012 at 5:04pm

GAP releases pro-gay ad, under fire from One Million Moms


The US clothing retailer GAP has released a new advertising campaign in Los Angeles, which features a gay couple embracing under one t-shirt, and has predictably drawn the wrath of the anti-gay group, One Million Moms.



The one on the right is just adorable! : )

Comment by A Former Member on May 20, 2012 at 4:58pm

Here's another one that's apropos, too:


Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.


Comment by A Former Member on May 20, 2012 at 4:47pm

Conservatives are always using wedge issues and scapegoating someone for the world's problems. I found this quote by H. L. Mencken that seemed apropos here:


When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is the fact that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of comprehending any save the most elemental — men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack or be lost... All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

Comment by A Former Member on May 20, 2012 at 4:44pm

Katter regrets allowing homophobic ads


Maverick federal MP Bob Katter has told an audience with former prime minister Kevin Rudd he will regret homophobic advertisements aired by his party "for the rest of my days".

Katter's Australia Party's ads, featuring a pixilated black and white image of an older gay man with a young lover, went to air during the Queensland election campaign in March.

The party's founder, who holds the vast far north Queensland federal electorate of Kennedy, admitted the ads were a political mistake but later angrily refused to answer questions on gay marriage. [continue]


This appears to be the ad:




Comment by Daniel W on May 20, 2012 at 8:51am

When the group names were merged, there were long long long long discussions about what to use.   The fact is, a lot of people around the world use gay as an inclusive term.  A lot of people still don't accept "queer" as anything but an insult - it would be like using the "n-word" in the title of a group about racial issues.  Use of search terms sometimes requires precision - LGBT and GLBT and LGBTQ and GLBTQ and LGBTQI etc .  I find it frustrating that the first person thing someone has to say is they don't like the name of the group - discounting what has been said and done in the past.  There's no problem with having a discussion of terminology - billions of ascii characters have been spent doing so - starting a discussion topic would be appropriate, as opposed to the group comment wall.  I remember when Ellen came out - she said Yep, I'm gay".  The designation "LGBTQI" prioritizes Lesbians as first in the list, and the order of terminology sets up a prioritization that I in general find offensive - not because Lesbians are first, but why leave some people as add on at the end and only use them occasionally - everyone is important.  I do not agree with removing "Gay" from the group name.  Gay is not just gay men and never was - if it was, the "men" would not need to be added to "gay", it would be redundant.  Please tell me a generally accepted term that is inclusive, widely accepted, useful as a search term, does not prioritize people as some being "first" some being "last" and some being lost in the middle, that is not offensive, and that people in most countries will recognize.

Comment by Sandi on May 20, 2012 at 7:10am

Comment by A Former Member on May 19, 2012 at 7:16pm

Yes, he's a good guy.


IDK, I kind of like the name to include "gay" in the title, as I suspect most new members will search using that term. The group was originally just called Gay Atheists, and there was another one called LGBT Atheists or something like that. But a group of us lobbied to have that one closed because we felt it was 1.) redundant, and 2.) nonsensical to have two groups carrying on similar discussions.


However, since then they have approved several other gay, bi, polyamorous groups, which I don't see the point of doing. This group has over 500 members, most not active, but still: why divide everyone up like that when we all have similar interests.


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