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Comment by C.L.A.W.S. on November 23, 2014 at 6:16pm

Growing Pains, thanks James.

Maybe Kirk should see Ted Haggerty?

I saw Haggerty for the first time on R.Dawkins Root of All Evil, &  his eyes gave me a fright right then & there.

Comment by James M. Martin on November 23, 2014 at 5:39pm

@C.L.A.W.S. The title was Growing Pains, and Cameron was cute as a button. I don't think I missed an episode. He played a character that is 180-degrees away from the guy he is now that he's having a midlife crisis and remembers the night he took some K and cocaine and fucked his brains out with one of the show's groupies, one of many. He is now feeling guilty about those years and has found Jesus. What a shame. Gay men tell me he is bisexual but in denial. Christianity will do that to a person.That's why Ted Turner called it "a religion for losers."

Comment by C.L.A.W.S. on November 22, 2014 at 4:17pm

He played the son in an Alan Thicke tv show a few decades ago, but the show's title escapes me. He was thought to be a cute kid, (according to other opinions) but he couldn't act as far as I remember. Grew up to be a pukey adult.

Comment by sk8eycat on November 22, 2014 at 4:10pm

Who is Kirk Cameron?  I never heard of hiim, so IMO he's a "never-was," just like Jeebus.

OR....maybe it's a case of "methinks the [person] doth protest too much."

When someone starts yammering about "sin" to me, I ask them to define the word.  Most xians can't.  They just stammer.

Comment by Daniel W on November 22, 2014 at 3:42pm

Kirk Cameron - "God Hates Fags!"

The youtube video was taken down by "Living Waters Productions".  I watched it earlier today.  Maybe a transcript will show up.  Cameron stated that Christians need to tell gay people that they are sinning and headed to hell, and that god hates gay people, then added "God hates fags and they are going to hell". 

I imagine they took down the video because of the backlash.  All I can say is, I did watch it earlier, and the quote is accurate.

Kirk Cameron is rapidly heading down the path to a first class slimeball homophobe.  In fact, he's already there.  It's probably a way to make a better living than he could make as a has-been former child actor.

I went to the Living Waters Production webside - the first popup was a movie ad for their upcoming movie about homosexuality...  interesting timing there.

Comment by Daniel W on November 22, 2014 at 3:31pm

CLAWS - you are right, teens can and do tell lies, sometimes big, dangerous lies.  The legal issue is, in the eyes of the law it doesn't matter if the teen lied, pursued the adult, and initiated the situation.  In the law, the adult is fully responsible.  It may well be like the story of Lolita, fictional, who ruined lives.  I guess if Bean had "carded" the 15 year old, he could have avoided this situation.  I don't know that anyone cards the people who they get involved with.

Bean's fall sounds like a Greek tragedy.  Led down the path to destruction by his gullibility and infatuation with a beautiful lover - the 20 something meth addict / criminal who he fell for and who attacked him, extorted, and was involved in the situation with the 15 year old. 

Comment by C.L.A.W.S. on November 21, 2014 at 3:14pm

Isn't it true that teens can lie like sidewalks? I remember lots of kids saying they were 18 when they plainly weren't, & lots of others who did look of age.

If some bleeding hearts didn't make such a huge deal out of sex, & mind their own p's & q's, maybe it wouldn't be so stretched out of proportion by the media.

Comment by Daniel W on November 21, 2014 at 2:44pm
As usual sorry for typos. Damn ipad.
Comment by Daniel W on November 21, 2014 at 2:43pm
James you are right there are a lot of unanswered questions. Snd of course, everyone has feet of ckay. Most if us just dont know it. what was a 15 year old doing on an adult website? And the person being taken advantage of may have been Bean. He might have thought the young man was if age. But they say, not knowing is not an excuse. I guess he should have checked the drivers license.

Anyway, it's all speculation. And I still hate to see this happen.

The gay mayor of Portland, Sam Adams, had a similar underage liason(s). I dont know about Oregon. Must be something in the water. The "gay Lolita virus"? Is that Lolito?
Comment by James M. Martin on November 21, 2014 at 12:39pm

@Daniel W, in enlightened countries, such as those free of religious bigotry, and where the age of consent is more in line with what we know about not only child development but scientific theories of nature over nurture causality, fifteen is not subject to statutory rape. Our laws need revamping considerably, bearing in mind the old 7's "law" based on the notion that 7's are a lifetime change number so that laws were passed to apply to those under 7, over 14, and, as is currently the law with regard to drinking, 21. Also ignored by the report is the level of sexual sophistication the boy had. I'd like to defend these men in court. Blow this whole issue up. For all we know, that 15 year old knew more about sex than both of the adults combined.

 

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