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Comment by Chrissie Farthing on February 10, 2013 at 12:42pm

It has been my experience that most people who have a place in the LGBT spectrum have and still are covering their true self because of the pressure from theology and it's influence on society.  For one to identify as a thinking individual who does not fit their ideal of what we all should be is asking for trouble and hatred sometimes resulting in death or injury.  As a result of that I and many others hid our true selves and never admitted our true self often not even to ourself.

 

I spent 74 years in that limbo and then then rather than ending it all I decided to let the world know my true self.  I admitted to the world as well as myself that I had gender disphoria and that I was going to put it right.  I completed my transition at 76 and life now is more than I ever thought possible.  Those people who you loose because you show who you really are, you know the ones whon believe in some form of invisable sky god, are not worthtrying to keep even if they are family.  The really hard part is finding the will to come out and be who you really are.  I am sure a lot of those grey areas would deminish if we were honest.

 

I am now a Trans. Atheist Lesbian and at nearly 80 life could not be better so we all need to come out and joinn the fun.

Comment by Dominic Florio on February 10, 2013 at 11:19am

This brings us back to the discussion of whether people who say they are bi, are actually gay.  I certainly can't say and I would have to take people at their word, but does it hurt us or help us?

I had a male visitor the other night who identifies as "straight" and he only does certain things.  What people do not realize is that you can be a virgin and still be gay.  Your nature is your nature.

I have alwys found that women were more flexible or willing to state that they were bi, and without a study, I have seen many move back and forth between men and women, often when a relationship goes badly with one, they move to the opposite.  Not being a woman, I gave up a long time ago trying to explain female sexuality.  You don't find truly heterosexual boys kissing each other at pajama parties or experimenting in college. 

While many heterosexuals have had gay experiences, that is different from "experimenting" for a length of time.  Typically, few heterosexual males take up with men, when they have a failed heterosexual relationship.

I still find most OUT males identifying as gay, but many who are on the DL, will claim to be bi or even straight like my recent visitor.  But, I am in no way negating the claims of either bisexuality or being somewhere on the spectrum, since, how could I know anyway?

While it is obviously a silly ploy by some to claim bi or straight status to gain some sort of "normality", I wonder if in today's world, if people are becoming more relaxed about their sexuality and recognizing even a slight variation on the sexuality scale?

This could actuality help us, because in the past, if I heard someone say that everybody is a little bi or everyone has experimented, they were usually making the case against gay people, promoting movement to the "norm" of heterosexuality, while dismissing a gay identity.

But, if more people are identifying with being somewhere on the spectrum, it may be that it is becoming a "so what" or "who cares" situation.  Studies have shown that a growing number of people are acepting marriage equality.

Maybe our movement has helped a growing number of people to openly recognize that they may not be 100 % of anything, but still might have strong preferences.

I'm 53 and as a teenager, all those many years ago, when I began to recognize and admitt my sexual feelings, I first identified as bi, for a short time.  I thought it was safer and since I didn't hate women, so it must be the case.  But the gay movement taught me to love myself and accept myself for whoever I am.  For me, that turned out to be 100 % gay.

In today's world, these young wipper snappers have more choices, role models, and a small but growing approval by society, to be who you are.  Obviously, we are not there yet, but we are moving towards the goals for which we have fought.

 

Comment by Sentient Biped on February 10, 2013 at 8:50am

So funny!  So true!

Comment by The Flying Atheist on February 10, 2013 at 2:21am

Comment by Sentient Biped on February 1, 2013 at 10:38pm

Gary  - I'm also 100% gay.  As for drawing the line on discrimination, no one had any problem where to draw the line for me.  

Carl - thanks for posting.  i haven't watched yet but intend to.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 1, 2013 at 2:02pm
http://www.colinhiggins.org/courageawards/index.cfm
Colin Higgins Youth Courage Awards were established in 2000 to further the spirit and lifework of Colin Higgins. All of his films celebrate honesty and integrity in the face of adversity: Harold and Maude find love despite the objections of family and society, the heroes of Nine to Five find fulfillment and save the company by learning to appreciate their individual talents and differences, and the despised madam of The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas transforms the lives of many through her kindness. Like the characters in his films, Colin Higgins Youth Courage Award recipients have endured overwhelming hardships due to their sexual orientation and/or gender identity, yet have handled themselves with the utmost grace.

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Comment by Gary F. Lord on February 1, 2013 at 12:43pm

I am 100% gay so I don't know where to draw the line.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on February 1, 2013 at 12:26pm

Here's a great TED talk that was just released:

iO Tillett Wright: Fifty shades of gay

Artist iO Tillett Wright has photographed 2,000 people who consider themselves somewhere on the LBGTQ spectrum and asked many of them: Can you assign a percentage to how gay or straight you are? Most people, it turns out, consider themselves to exist in the gray areas of sexuality, not 100% gay or straight. Which presents a real problem when it comes to discrimination: Where do you draw the line?

Comment by Sentient Biped on January 31, 2013 at 9:51am

Gandhi's supposed gay love letters on display.  Queerty.

 

Of course, that thought upsets a lot of people.  

 

gandhi-kallenbach

NY Times

 

An older discussion.....

Who knows? Interesting. "Taking control of my body, with a vengience"

India gov't not too crazy about this.

India's a rather homophobic place, although not as virulent as much of Africa and the Muslim world.  That their great liberator might be....  suggested.... to be gay, isn't an easy argument to make.

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 29, 2013 at 12:52pm

This young woman found the tastiest (and punniest) possible way to come out to her parents -- it really takes the cake!

(Hit the link for the article and bigger photos.)

 

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