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Comment by sk8eycat on February 23, 2014 at 9:33pm

I have friends and relatives in central and northern Arizona.  I sent the link to that story to a couple (been together 40+ years) in Payson (geographical center of the state...)  This was their reply:

YES, ELAINE, IT IS FOR REAL!  The bill is on the Gov's desk and she has 5 days to veto it, sign it or leave it alone (which means it becomes law automatically).  John and I have never had one single problem here in Payson but I don't know what will happen if she does sign it into law.  Talk about prejudice! 
We have a bunch of morons in our legislature in AZ and that's giving them some credit for brains.
Allen

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My VERY long reply:

It's going to cost the taxpayers an arm and a leg, and maybe a few hips, to fight it in the courts.  Definitely unconstitutional.  D'you think the Gov. is hateful enough to sign it?  Or let it lapse into law?

This kind of nastiness makes me sick, even though it doesn't affect me personally; sort of like the first time I travelled with Holiday in the South in 1957, and saw separate waiting rooms, separate water fountains, signs by the seats in buses, and black people buying fast food burgers from kitchen doors instead of at the counters out front like everyone else.  I'd read about that kind of thing, but actually seeing it, and living with it was something else altogether.

I also still fume about what Mabel Fairbanks had to go through to become a professional skater in the 1940s and '50s....she had to put together her own shows and play places like Cuba and South America.  she also had to resort to subterfuge to get her students  admitted to the USFSA in the late 1960s (!) so they could compete....something she was never allowed to do. She trained champions, but was not inducted into the USFSA Hall of Fame till 1997.  A bit of an afterthought IMO.

This video made me cry a bit...I love Atoy, I'm glad he put this together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kW4bSdx2o

I often wonder which group is going to be next.  I belong to THE most hated minority in the USA...atheists.  We are now close to 20% of the population, but no politician (since Pete Stark) can get elected dog-catcher if she or he admits to being non-religious.

Oh, this pi$$es me off so much I can hardly think!  I hope Gov. Brewer develops a brain instead of her usual cerebral tentacle, and vetoes the bill. Even if she agrees with it, she must be aware of how much the fight is going to cost the state.
Felaine <snarling>

Comment by Patricia on February 23, 2014 at 3:37pm

Yeah, not much appealing there, & the weather doesn't interest me either as I hate heat.

I don't think we have anything in the stores here manufactured there, but I'll make sure I check, as well as checking where my items come from when I shop online.

Dear ol' dad was a huge bigot, matching ''Archie Bunker'' without the humor, but I never liked it & knew something wasn't right even before I heard of the word.  

Comment by Sentient Biped on February 23, 2014 at 3:09pm

Considering the level of Bigotry pervading Arizona, I would boycot them.  The problem is, I have never gone there, I don't plan to, and I'm not aware of buying anything from there.  Not much left to boycot.  Kind of like Alabama, same thing.

Comment by Patricia on February 23, 2014 at 2:28pm

I also have never heard of people being ''pulled over'' who aren't white, so it either hasn't been enough to make the news, or I just haven't heard it, & my husband has Vancouver's news on every evening. But......as I said, we're in a small city, & the biggest thing here other than crime is getting the drunks out of the city park.

Comment by Patricia on February 23, 2014 at 2:21pm

I can't claim to know much about it, but I do know a lot of the Canadians go there for the winter, including a neighbor down the street from us. My husband has a US cousin who lives in Arizona, but we're not in touch.

News about Arizona is on our news frequently, but I can't say I'm impressed. I am in a very small city, & we don't seem to have the issues with all these things as the bigger centers do.

We have all kinds of different people here & no problem other than crime from some of the same ones over & over again.

I prefer not to watch a lot of the news as it makes me so sad.

Comment by Sentient Biped on February 23, 2014 at 1:56pm

Patricia,

Arizona has long endeavored to be "The Alabama of the Southwest". I don't know why. Well, yes I do. Arizona is one of the major "White flight" states, as reactionary white people left California and other states in reaction to the presence of more people of color.

I know a fair number of "snowbirds" - retirees who migrate to Arizona in the winter, and back to the Northwest in the summer. Some of them, you can't even chit chat with, without their bigotry coming to the front. "How was the winter there this year?" "The sunshine was great. But too many Mexicans."

I didn't to research on statistic there. I don't feel like becoming worked up and upset. My impression is, recent anti-immigrant (more accurately, "Anti-Mexican", since they won't pull people over for looking Canadian) laws have resulted in people of Mexican heritage leaving the state. Alabama, too. When I am in a better mood I might check on that. Might not.

Comment by Patricia on February 23, 2014 at 1:29pm
Comment by Napoleon Bonaparte on February 22, 2014 at 6:26am

Les Athées Napoléonienne Learn French the easy way !

Comment by Sentient Biped on February 18, 2014 at 9:35am

More on Virginia.  It makes me want to cry.

 

 

Comment by Sentient Biped on February 18, 2014 at 9:30am

I never thought in my lifetime there would be so much change.  Never imagined.  Being gay, I never expected acceptance, equality.  The purveyors of misery would not allow it!  

I shake my head and think, wake me up!  It's too much!

 

You cant go through life without knowing there is a pendulum.  For every yin, a yang.  I don't believe in metaphysical forces that call for balance - our success does not create misery in Africa, Arab nations, Russia.  But I keep thinking, the next election cycle....  what will happen?

 

Ultimately it will go to the Supreme Court again.  I hope Ginsberg is taking her vitamins.

Just amazed.  Amazed.

 

 

 

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