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Comment by James M. Martin on October 8, 2014 at 7:57am

@Bertold, just as that Reinhardt opinion states, inclusion is the key to any democracy. I put a lot of stock in that old adage, agreeable somewhat nebulous, that as long as one is not free, all are in chains. As for "models of commitment," one of the primary accusations of homophobes is that gays are promiscuous. One of them was quoted as saying gays have a hundred partners a year or five hundred, or whatever. Wouldn't marriage help prevent the spread of HIV and a bunch of other problems laid at the feet of gays? Not that any of these dolts ever make much sense.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 7, 2014 at 11:40pm

Sometimes there's good news. This time, thanks to the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit (from the NYT):


The lessons of our constitutional history are clear: Inclusion strengthens, rather than weakens, our most important institutions,” Judge Stephen R. Reinhardt wrote in the three-judge panel’s unanimous ruling. “When same-sex couples are married, just as when opposite-sex couples are married, they serve as models of loving commitment to all.

Comment by James M. Martin on October 7, 2014 at 5:34pm

@Bertold, what can you expect of people who want to apply 3,000 year old writings to anything in the Space Age. They needed babies for canon fodder and the largest tribe would win the wars, fought with spears, knives, clubs, &c. (I suspect Mr. Kalashnikov came along much later.)

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 7, 2014 at 3:26pm

A great response on Disqus to SCOTUS declining to hear a marriage equality case:

Leviticus, not the Constitution, is the law of the land. With gay people getting married, any day now God is going to rain down fire and brimstone on us all, and the United States will sink into the bowels of the earth, never to be heard of again. That's exactly what's happened to every other country where gay marriage is legal, right? Canada, France, Belgium, the Netherlands and all the rest---gone!

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 2, 2014 at 12:23pm

Protect Portland Children just sent out a list of 31 elementary schools that are targeted by the Good News Club for their after school child conversion programs. They're asking for parent volunteers to help monitor the activities of the club.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 2, 2014 at 11:51am

Great Bit! It was hilarious.

Comment by Grinning Cat on October 2, 2014 at 11:21am

Staunch atheist comedian Jamie Kilstein demolishes common anti-gay arguments, touching on parenting, "natural" and "unnatural", and religion, in a three-minute rant:

http://www.upworthy.com/a-comedian-tears-apart-a-classic-anti-gay-a...

Video and transcript; NSFW and NSFFFTH (Not Safe For Family and Friends of Ted Haggard)

"Why do you have, like, nine f***ing kids yet you say that gay folk can't adopt because it might screw the child up... just because your man bits fit into some girl bits doesn't mean you have to have kids.

Do you know how many straight parents shouldn't have children? Go to a movie theater or an IHOP on a Sunday...."

"...I've read the Bible. And there is a lot of unnatural $#!t that happens in that book!..."

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 16, 2014 at 10:07am

@ TFA - I wonder which is worse, having fags or having women in your mosque, or if both are equally repugnant.

Probably fags are worse. At least women can make more Muslims.

Comment by Daniel W on September 16, 2014 at 10:06am

To some extent I will "take what I can get" as far as acceptance of human beings as who their are, in  the religions.  Any moderation is better than nothing at all.  Islam supports the murder of gays and unsubmissive women.  And in the 'privacy' of their churches and homes, so do evangelicals - they just don't run any countries where they can make that happen.

 

If Islam could be diluted to the extent that christianity is today, that seem good.  The problem is - this from a nonmuslim, nonscholar- christianity has at least the bipolar message of Jesus, who can be a source of love as well as hate.  Islam has only the unipolar message of the prophet, who does not have a message of mercy, as far as I know.  So within Islam, I don't know if there is possibility of reform, only dilution via Westernism.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on September 16, 2014 at 9:57am

I wonder which is worse, having fags or having women in your mosque, or if both are equally repugnant. 

I'm always torn about how to react when religious people do something "progressive."  On one hand I'm glad they are changing toward the better.  On the other hand, I'm dismissive of their slow-to-change progress on what really should be non-issues in a modern society. 

 

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