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Boycotting Indiana

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 12. 12 Replies

Per Right Wing Watch, The Nuts Are Really Coming after the Fruits

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Apr 10. 2 Replies

Discrimination by nontheists?

Started by Jacob Dreiling. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Mar 27. 15 Replies

The Lack Of LGBT Atheists

Started by Neon Genesis. Last reply by Grinning Cat Mar 27. 16 Replies

Priviliged Bickering

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Susan Stanko Mar 17. 3 Replies

Coming out in your teens.

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 5, 2015 at 3:59pm

The Sounds of Sodomy, anyone?

"Okay, it probably doesn’t qualify as the world’s most Sophisticated Theology, but this caused a great deal of snickering in Ireland today. The leaflet apparently is the work of a Christian group campaigning against Ireland’s imminent referendum on same-sex marriage. They had virtually no hope of stopping the inevitable even before this page started hitting the streets and then trending on social media, as there is an extremely comfortable margin of support for it. Now they probably have even less.


Such heartfelt pleas immediately launched an appropriately-named, harmless, but possibly NSFW hashtag on Twitter and is getting roundly mocked everywhere.

It is sad that some people still think their religion mandates homophobia, but heartening that the general reaction to religious bigotry in Ireland today is laughter."

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 28, 2014 at 4:02pm

I didn't see the BBC version James, and I would surely hesitate to put Cumberbatch up against a lion of the classical British stage like Jacobi. Benedict did turn in a very deep and nuanced performance though. The insouciant Sherlock role was good rehearsal for this one I'd guess. Rolling Stone's Travers gave him quite a rave, although old Peter isn't necessarily the most reliable film reviewer.

Comment by James M. Martin on December 28, 2014 at 3:32pm

BB, did you ever see the BBC movie on Turing? Cumberbund has to be quite good if he can better the brilliant performing of the openly gay actor, Derek Jacoby. Title was Breaking the Code, and it was exceptional. I almost don't want to see the Cumberbund but know I will do so.

Comment by James M. Martin on December 28, 2014 at 3:22pm

sk8eycat, interesting story in the newest Church and State magazine from Americans United (for Separation) about the lesbian mayor of Houston fucking up royally by sending subpoenas to local churches whose pastors refuse to comply with the benefits extension ordinance she got passed making them do this and that. They sued her and the council, so the respondent with a duces tecum requiring them supply her with texts of sermons given in the last six months, or something like that. The churches refused to comply and there was a hoop de do ending with withdrawl of the subpoenas and a black eye on the mayor. A.U. said it wished the mayor had not done what she had, because her actions were clearly improper. Hate to see a lgbtq pol -- especially one in Texas! -- get out of hand, but of course I sympathized with her. The red state element in that huge city could only be expected to do all it could to blacker her eye.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 28, 2014 at 3:04pm

Went to see The Imitation Game yesterday with Benedict Cumberbatch of Sherlock fame playing Alan Turing. It wasn't exactly a suspense thriller, but it artfully and subtly depicted the irony of a man who literally saved millions of lives and shaved two years off WW II subsequently being hounded to death by the British government because of what he liked to do with his private parts. Showing a  magnanimity similar to the Pope's with Galileo, they posthumously "pardoned" him fifty years after the fact.

Comment by sk8eycat on December 28, 2014 at 11:49am

Chrissie, there are other places to have fancy weddings besides churches....hotels, parks, any public space you can rent for a day....or two.Are there non-denominational chapels that ONLY do weddings in the UK? 

I guess a church would be less expensive since in the UK, your taxes openly support the Anglican church.  MY taxes invisibly subsidize every effing church in California, because they pay NO taxes on their property, or even for their office supplies and/or toilet paper.  (I tried using pages from the buybull for TP once....not very absorbent.)

It just makes me shudder to think of non-believers having to go through the motions just for the sake of a little pizzazz on their wedding day....

Comment by Daniel W on December 28, 2014 at 9:48am

Idaho will be required to pay $400,000 to the legal team they hired in hopes of continued antigay discrimination.  The state's tax dollars at work. 

Surely there is a school somewhere that could have used that money.

Comment by Daniel W on December 23, 2014 at 8:58pm

Chrissie, thank you for your commentary!  I hope you are doing well and having a great winter!

Comment by Chrissie Farthing on December 23, 2014 at 8:34pm

As a Brit. we are not much into the religious thing but you will find that many of us do want what churches still exist to remain.  Lets face it a Register Office wedding is not very festive or up market.  We get married there and we Christen our kids there, you have to do that because its a bloody good start to a damn good piss up to wet the baby's head.  On the surface of it they say that 60% of us are Atheist or Agnostic but in truth if we were honest it is more like 90%.  The older members of the Tory Party do not want to admit anything because the Queen is the head of The Church of England and they think it would show her disrespect to admit that they think it's a load of crap.  The Christian Religion is loosing all over most of Europe but what is on the rise because of such lax immigration protection and millions of those people who get out of the Middle East to escape to Europe and UK to keep their own countrymen from murdering them but they drag those same beliefs in with them and refuse to accept the lifestyle of the Nation that gave them refuge. So here it is, Brits want something that recognizes that they are joined, it has many advantages.  Most of it is Taxation and of course money talks.

As for the Mormons, If they believe all that about the founding of their church and trust their well being to the pair of knickers that they have on I can see that same sex attraction is not gay, its surely Brotherly Love.  You have to admit they make lovely music.

Well, that's my tuppence worth.

Comment by Daniel W on December 23, 2014 at 3:02pm

Here is a digest of articles I have been mulling over.

gaystarnews.com.  UK straight couple wants civil partnership.  I don't see why not.  Or better yet - have all of society with civil partnership as the only legal option, and if people want something they have to label marriage, let them get that through their church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or guru.

"My Husband's Not Gay"   - TLC continues it's tradition of sleazy  reality shows, which includes the virulently homphobic Duggar's.  Duck Dynasty is on A&E based on my google search.  The idea here is these guys are attracted to men, but choose not to be gay because Jesus doesn't like it.  And I guess their wives are fine with that.

Then there's guys kissing guys for the first time - straight and grossed out about it, sort of, but for some reason they are doing it for the video. In the Army, 40 years ago, they used to say you can have sex with a soldier, but not kiss him. It was more crudely stated than that. This video gives me mixed feelings of revulsion, exploitation, not liking the guys involved, and yet it's touching when one got his feelings hurt. Sort of.

 

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