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Comment by Patricia on February 23, 2014 at 11:43pm

The cousin always has his homes built.....huge, fancy, shmancy high end places for he & his wife....no kids. Not my cuppa that's for sure, I want comfort & something you don't need a long distance plan to be heard from one end to the other. They've lived from LA to St. Louis, to Phoenix, to Payson, building mansions each time. 

Comment by sk8eycat on February 23, 2014 at 11:14pm

I must say that Payson is a nice little town; I spent 2 weeks there dog-sitting for Al and his partner a few years ago, and met a lot of nice people.  It's at 5,000 ft, so the summer climate is usually mild, and they get some snow in the winter.  It's becoming a popular retirement area...certainly a LOT less expensive than California!  Many of the homes are factory-manufactured, but you can't tell just by looking at them.  Very sensible. And comfortable.

My cousins live in Winslow (as did my favorite aunt who died a few months ago...dammitall!); some of them bitch about the large number of Navajos that come into town from the reservation, but...good grief!  The Navajos were there first!

Comment by sk8eycat on February 23, 2014 at 10:55pm

NOTHING makes me angrier than bigotry and injustice!  I just don't know what I can do to stop it...feeling helpless also makes me mad. All I can do is write letters to editors, and sit here hissing and spitting.

Comment by sk8eycat on February 23, 2014 at 10:49pm

The big question is how the *bleep* do bigots tell who is gay, or whatever, unless they advertize what they are?  What if two (or any number of) businessmen go to a "working lunch" together; do they somehow have to prove they aren't gay before they can be seated and served?  How are they supposed to do that?

The whole thing is stupid.

I remember when Jesse Helms was carrying on about "family values" and anti-gay everything...he had NO idea how many gay and lesbian voters lived in North Carolina, or any other state.  Quite a few, actually...I know some of them....

All these idiots focus on is the syllable "SEX" in "homosexual" or "transsexual"...religious people are obsessed with everyone else's sex lives.  Fundies are today's version of puritans:

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
H. L. Mencken
Comment by Joan Denoo on February 23, 2014 at 10:00pm

Felaine, your story, and the one you shared with us through the film reveals a dark and ugly USA past, which sadly goes on. You are quite correct in the national hatred of atheist, non-believers of any stripe, and religions that don't stand upon the pedestal of Abraham. Hatred, bigotry, dogmatism, narrow-mindedness, all play their part in holding us back from the next leap forward in the human evolutionary journey. 

We are, without a doubt, at a cutting edge in history. A lot rides on the outcome, even life as we know it on Earth. If we remain shy, or afraid of being called names or having dirty tricks played on us, then we lose, automatically. The only way humanity can progress is for individuals who share a vision of justice and peace stand together in coalition. One person alone can submit to fear; a whole community caught in the talons of dominators means maintaining and perpetuating the status quo. 

Standing up before family, friends, the community and stating, "I am a nonbeliever; I do not see evidence of a god!" isn't really all that difficult ... long term. What is difficult is living under the shroud of any theism. 

Comment by Patricia on February 23, 2014 at 9:52pm

Payson is where my husband's cousin lives.

Comment by sk8eycat on February 23, 2014 at 9:33pm

I have friends and relatives in central and northern Arizona.  I sent the link to that story to a couple (been together 40+ years) in Payson (geographical center of the state...)  This was their reply:

YES, ELAINE, IT IS FOR REAL!  The bill is on the Gov's desk and she has 5 days to veto it, sign it or leave it alone (which means it becomes law automatically).  John and I have never had one single problem here in Payson but I don't know what will happen if she does sign it into law.  Talk about prejudice! 
We have a bunch of morons in our legislature in AZ and that's giving them some credit for brains.
Allen

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My VERY long reply:

It's going to cost the taxpayers an arm and a leg, and maybe a few hips, to fight it in the courts.  Definitely unconstitutional.  D'you think the Gov. is hateful enough to sign it?  Or let it lapse into law?

This kind of nastiness makes me sick, even though it doesn't affect me personally; sort of like the first time I travelled with Holiday in the South in 1957, and saw separate waiting rooms, separate water fountains, signs by the seats in buses, and black people buying fast food burgers from kitchen doors instead of at the counters out front like everyone else.  I'd read about that kind of thing, but actually seeing it, and living with it was something else altogether.

I also still fume about what Mabel Fairbanks had to go through to become a professional skater in the 1940s and '50s....she had to put together her own shows and play places like Cuba and South America.  she also had to resort to subterfuge to get her students  admitted to the USFSA in the late 1960s (!) so they could compete....something she was never allowed to do. She trained champions, but was not inducted into the USFSA Hall of Fame till 1997.  A bit of an afterthought IMO.

This video made me cry a bit...I love Atoy, I'm glad he put this together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kW4bSdx2o

I often wonder which group is going to be next.  I belong to THE most hated minority in the USA...atheists.  We are now close to 20% of the population, but no politician (since Pete Stark) can get elected dog-catcher if she or he admits to being non-religious.

Oh, this pi$$es me off so much I can hardly think!  I hope Gov. Brewer develops a brain instead of her usual cerebral tentacle, and vetoes the bill. Even if she agrees with it, she must be aware of how much the fight is going to cost the state.
Felaine <snarling>

Comment by Patricia on February 23, 2014 at 3:37pm

Yeah, not much appealing there, & the weather doesn't interest me either as I hate heat.

I don't think we have anything in the stores here manufactured there, but I'll make sure I check, as well as checking where my items come from when I shop online.

Dear ol' dad was a huge bigot, matching ''Archie Bunker'' without the humor, but I never liked it & knew something wasn't right even before I heard of the word.  

Comment by Sentient Biped on February 23, 2014 at 3:09pm

Considering the level of Bigotry pervading Arizona, I would boycot them.  The problem is, I have never gone there, I don't plan to, and I'm not aware of buying anything from there.  Not much left to boycot.  Kind of like Alabama, same thing.

Comment by Patricia on February 23, 2014 at 2:28pm

I also have never heard of people being ''pulled over'' who aren't white, so it either hasn't been enough to make the news, or I just haven't heard it, & my husband has Vancouver's news on every evening. But......as I said, we're in a small city, & the biggest thing here other than crime is getting the drunks out of the city park.

 

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