LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Comment by Sentient Biped on June 23, 2014 at 2:16pm
sorry for typos - the strange word there is "heart breaking". Not headt resking. Damn keypad.
Comment by Sentient Biped on June 23, 2014 at 2:15pm
It does kind of feel like this is the tipping point for trans issues. I get a lot of LGBTI news vis RSS and never had there been as much on the transgender side as now. Every revolution is messy, I hope this one is better.

The headt resking part for me is the almost constant news, or it feels like it, regarding anti-transgender violence. Employment and social acceptsnce have a long way to go too.

In this group, all LGBTI people and friends are embraced and welcomed. As the moderator, I post now and then but I love to see others posting and discussing important and not so important issues, building community and becoming friends.
Comment by Chrissie Farthing on June 23, 2014 at 2:01pm

Hi Fallen Angel, well I have been a member of this group for quite some time and I am sure everyone here knows my transgender status and I have been accepted with no problem.  Us "Ts" have to make ourselves visible which we tend not to do.  I join into everything under the LGBT banner and I have always been made a full partner in the activities.  Too many of us are not out and proud and until we get fully involved we will appear on the outside I am involved with SAGE and PROMO and I belong to a number of lesbian groups and the only place I have ever found prejudice has been OLOC.  When I was made aware of their bias I promptly resigned and I hear that a number of non T ladies have also dropped membership.

My advice, don't complain - just get involved.  It works.

Comment by Fallen Angel on June 23, 2014 at 11:34am

i think the issue of transgenders is kind of not being addressed and kind of swept under the table and thoroughly diluted into gay rights and sexuality, transsexualism is actually a very different issue, it has to do with gender and gender expression, so, im just leaving this message here for atheists to see so hopefully they can help create some awareness for the trans community and encourage people to get educated about what being trans really is, thank you :)

ps. not that you guys don't care about the trans community already, just putting this out there cause, you know, poular atheists often talk about the lgbt community and mention homosexuality a lot but they don't really cover gender identity and gender expression, which i think they should...maybe it might get someone's attention out there

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2014 at 10:41pm

Chrissie, what a wonderful life you have lived and yu made some tough choices. It must have been a challenge to decide to make such an important change in your life, even as you could not have known the hidden risks you were taking. What if you didn't like the choice you made? or What if you were unhappy with your new self? I respect your wisdom and courage to take on such a life's journey and now can describe your experiences first hand. 

I am very happy you joined this group. 

Comment by Chrissie Farthing on June 20, 2014 at 10:31pm

After living on both sides I think females, if done right can be wonderful and great fun.  For me, this new life is much more rewarding than my previous life.  Of course I was able to make a lot better income as male and now in retirement I don't have to be employed and I have a reasonable income so now is a wonderful fun time.  To go back to male would for me be worse than death. 

Of course I was never interested in the so called male fun things to do and always longed for those things that we as females get involved in. I can now be a doll collector out in the open and have a house full of them.  I play Bunko in a lesbian group and several other female groups so females do have more fun but that is only my opinion.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2014 at 8:56pm

Felaine, of course I remember the WASPs but not the vivid remembrance of Dorothy Britt Mann by her daughter. Those were interesting times, indeed, and many changes came out of those experiences of women doing men's work when the men were at war, and then returning to women's work at lower pay, power and prestige. 

Chrissie, love your story and how you can use your femaleness to make your point. I am just a wee bit curious, do women have more fun than men? 

"a woman’s place is every place."

Comment by Chrissie Farthing on June 20, 2014 at 8:02pm

Next March I will be attending the reunion of Air Force Pilot Training Class 55 India. In the early 50s there were no female pilots.  As I have been female for a number of years now and pass so well this is going to be fun to show and say no, I am not one of the wives I am one of the pilots. I have the history and now days I just love walking into a male dominated area with full rights to be there but as a woman.  Then when one of them challenges me I let it be known I also served as an officer in several African and Arabian Armed Forces something that most of them didn't have the balls for.  I just love rocking the boat and I am still having fun in my 80s. 

The WASPs were a wonderful bunch and they as well as the Rosy the Riveters were really dumped on when it was over.  I lived near the Navy Yard in Wash. DC and saw how so many ladies in my neighborhood were just told "Go home and don't come back, you are no longer needed"

Comment by sk8eycat on June 20, 2014 at 7:26pm

Joan, about "women's work" and WW2...do you remember the WASPs, the women who piloted planes from the manufacturers to the delivery points?  When the war ended they were all let go with no severance pay.  Many even had to pay their own bus fare back to their home towns.

http://www.maryamann.com/blog/gold-medal-awarded-to-creative-grandm...

KONA, HI ~ If you haven’t heard of the WASP, or Women Airforce Service Pilots, it’s because 65 years ago these brave women who flew non-combat missions for the U. S. Army were unceremoniously disbanded so that male pilots could have their jobs.

In one of his large compensatory gestures, President Obama signed S. 614 last week, a bill awarding my mother and 1,101 other pioneering women the Congressional Gold Medal of Honor for their service during World War II. It soothed an old sting that the WASP and their families could not forget.

And despite the sting, these creative, powerful women broke the glass ceiling anyway, long before Hilary Clinton was even born.

In fact, they soared through the glass ceiling. They crossed the fickle line of social and professional customs which had tried to keep women “in their place,” certainly on the ground. But my Mom, Dorothy Britt Mann, together with her WASP comrades, knew a woman’s place is every place.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2014 at 6:21pm

Grinning Cat, you wrote, "for a fossil-fuel-free future, somehow we need to frame supporters of the fossil fuel industries as not just fossils themselves -- people think of fossils as harmless ancient artifacts -- but toxic fossils!

By framing, I assume you mean redefine how it is that we perceive supporters of the fossil fuel industries. 

OK, I am open to ideas, let's have a go at this. What do you suggest? 

 

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