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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 2, 2014 at 12:23pm

Protect Portland Children just sent out a list of 31 elementary schools that are targeted by the Good News Club for their after school child conversion programs. They're asking for parent volunteers to help monitor the activities of the club.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 2, 2014 at 11:51am

Great Bit! It was hilarious.

Comment by Grinning Cat on October 2, 2014 at 11:21am

Staunch atheist comedian Jamie Kilstein demolishes common anti-gay arguments, touching on parenting, "natural" and "unnatural", and religion, in a three-minute rant:

http://www.upworthy.com/a-comedian-tears-apart-a-classic-anti-gay-a...

Video and transcript; NSFW and NSFFFTH (Not Safe For Family and Friends of Ted Haggard)

"Why do you have, like, nine f***ing kids yet you say that gay folk can't adopt because it might screw the child up... just because your man bits fit into some girl bits doesn't mean you have to have kids.

Do you know how many straight parents shouldn't have children? Go to a movie theater or an IHOP on a Sunday...."

"...I've read the Bible. And there is a lot of unnatural $#!t that happens in that book!..."

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 16, 2014 at 10:07am

@ TFA - I wonder which is worse, having fags or having women in your mosque, or if both are equally repugnant.

Probably fags are worse. At least women can make more Muslims.

Comment by Sentient Biped on September 16, 2014 at 10:06am

To some extent I will "take what I can get" as far as acceptance of human beings as who their are, in  the religions.  Any moderation is better than nothing at all.  Islam supports the murder of gays and unsubmissive women.  And in the 'privacy' of their churches and homes, so do evangelicals - they just don't run any countries where they can make that happen.

 

If Islam could be diluted to the extent that christianity is today, that seem good.  The problem is - this from a nonmuslim, nonscholar- christianity has at least the bipolar message of Jesus, who can be a source of love as well as hate.  Islam has only the unipolar message of the prophet, who does not have a message of mercy, as far as I know.  So within Islam, I don't know if there is possibility of reform, only dilution via Westernism.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on September 16, 2014 at 9:57am

I wonder which is worse, having fags or having women in your mosque, or if both are equally repugnant. 

I'm always torn about how to react when religious people do something "progressive."  On one hand I'm glad they are changing toward the better.  On the other hand, I'm dismissive of their slow-to-change progress on what really should be non-issues in a modern society. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 16, 2014 at 9:45am

Re: the "converted" evangelical - he's talking in a christian context that's complete nonsense, but his change of view is still notable.

Comment by Sentient Biped on September 16, 2014 at 9:41am

controversy over a proposed "Women and gay friendly mosque" in South Africa.

 

"Mr Hargey says the Open Mosque, that has been in development for two years, is designed to counter growing Islamic radicalism in Africa

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 16, 2014 at 8:29am

It does happen - a "conversion" in the right direction.

Interview with the author of The Bible's Yes to Same Sex Marriage

Mark Achtemeier has been a minister with the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A) since 1984, and for much of his ministry he characterized himself as a “conservative anti-gay activist.” As a pastor and an associate professor of theology and ethics at the University of Dubuque Theological Seminary, Achtemeier wrote and spoke against the ordination of gay and lesbian ministers and co-wrote a declaration of faith that an anti-ordination coalition adopted.

That began to change in 2001, Achtemeier says when he made friends with some gay and lesbian Christians, some of whom had tried everything in their power to “change” their sexual orientation or had embraced a life of celibacy.

“It was producing broken people,” he told me, “and it wasn’t just isolated instances of this. I saw more and more of this and came away from these experiences thinking something is wrong with this picture. That got me writing and asking questions.”

Here's the interview:

http://religiondispatches.org/marriage-is-for-everybody-says-former...

Comment by The Flying Atheist on September 15, 2014 at 7:16pm

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Seven photographs of gay military couples. 

 

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