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Boycotting Indiana

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Per Right Wing Watch, The Nuts Are Really Coming after the Fruits

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Discrimination by nontheists?

Started by Jacob Dreiling. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Mar 27. 15 Replies

The Lack Of LGBT Atheists

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Priviliged Bickering

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Coming out in your teens.

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Comment by sk8eycat on November 22, 2014 at 4:10pm

Who is Kirk Cameron?  I never heard of hiim, so IMO he's a "never-was," just like Jeebus.

OR....maybe it's a case of "methinks the [person] doth protest too much."

When someone starts yammering about "sin" to me, I ask them to define the word.  Most xians can't.  They just stammer.

Comment by Daniel W on November 22, 2014 at 3:42pm

Kirk Cameron - "God Hates Fags!"

The youtube video was taken down by "Living Waters Productions".  I watched it earlier today.  Maybe a transcript will show up.  Cameron stated that Christians need to tell gay people that they are sinning and headed to hell, and that god hates gay people, then added "God hates fags and they are going to hell". 

I imagine they took down the video because of the backlash.  All I can say is, I did watch it earlier, and the quote is accurate.

Kirk Cameron is rapidly heading down the path to a first class slimeball homophobe.  In fact, he's already there.  It's probably a way to make a better living than he could make as a has-been former child actor.

I went to the Living Waters Production webside - the first popup was a movie ad for their upcoming movie about homosexuality...  interesting timing there.

Comment by Daniel W on November 22, 2014 at 3:31pm

CLAWS - you are right, teens can and do tell lies, sometimes big, dangerous lies.  The legal issue is, in the eyes of the law it doesn't matter if the teen lied, pursued the adult, and initiated the situation.  In the law, the adult is fully responsible.  It may well be like the story of Lolita, fictional, who ruined lives.  I guess if Bean had "carded" the 15 year old, he could have avoided this situation.  I don't know that anyone cards the people who they get involved with.

Bean's fall sounds like a Greek tragedy.  Led down the path to destruction by his gullibility and infatuation with a beautiful lover - the 20 something meth addict / criminal who he fell for and who attacked him, extorted, and was involved in the situation with the 15 year old. 

Comment by Daniel W on November 21, 2014 at 2:44pm
As usual sorry for typos. Damn ipad.
Comment by Daniel W on November 21, 2014 at 2:43pm
James you are right there are a lot of unanswered questions. Snd of course, everyone has feet of ckay. Most if us just dont know it. what was a 15 year old doing on an adult website? And the person being taken advantage of may have been Bean. He might have thought the young man was if age. But they say, not knowing is not an excuse. I guess he should have checked the drivers license.

Anyway, it's all speculation. And I still hate to see this happen.

The gay mayor of Portland, Sam Adams, had a similar underage liason(s). I dont know about Oregon. Must be something in the water. The "gay Lolita virus"? Is that Lolito?
Comment by James M. Martin on November 21, 2014 at 12:39pm

@Daniel W, in enlightened countries, such as those free of religious bigotry, and where the age of consent is more in line with what we know about not only child development but scientific theories of nature over nurture causality, fifteen is not subject to statutory rape. Our laws need revamping considerably, bearing in mind the old 7's "law" based on the notion that 7's are a lifetime change number so that laws were passed to apply to those under 7, over 14, and, as is currently the law with regard to drinking, 21. Also ignored by the report is the level of sexual sophistication the boy had. I'd like to defend these men in court. Blow this whole issue up. For all we know, that 15 year old knew more about sex than both of the adults combined.

Comment by Daniel W on November 20, 2014 at 8:22pm

Very upsetting news.

Bean, 66, a prominent gay rights activist and major Democratic Party fundraiser, was arrested at his home in Southwest Portland and booked into the Multnomah County Detention Center at 10:12 a.m. Wednesday. The indictment charges Bean with two counts of third-degree sodomy, a felony, and one count of third-degree sex abuse, a misdemeanor, police said ... Both Bean and Lawson are accused of having a sexual encounter with the same 15-year-old boy in a hotel in Eugene last year. They had arranged the encounter with the teen after meeting him via a website, investigators allege.

I suppose, the 15 year old may have posed as older - the hookup websites require uses attest to being 18 or older.  I don't know.  And people are innocent until proven guilty.  And there are claims of an extortion ring

But it's still very upsetting news.

Comment by Daniel W on November 18, 2014 at 9:44am

In India, gays can't get married, but monkeys can.  ">200 people attend monkey wedding". 

Udesh Mahto

OK as long as they are not gay monkeys.

Comment by Daniel W on November 16, 2014 at 11:46am
I remember when dadt cane about. I think it was Sam Nunn who was so against gays in military even though we were already there. When clinton caved, that felt like such a betrayal. Fortunately, he was such a traditionally virtuous man, lining the example of traditional marriage, so no one can accuse him of hypocrisy on sexual issues. uh huh.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 16, 2014 at 11:18am

So right, Daniel. As the old Mellencamp song goes, "Ain't that America!" Don't Ask, Don't Tell was about as juvenile and absurd a policy as can be imagined, but I guess it was the most Clinton figured he could get.

 

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