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Comment by Richard Healy on March 20, 2011 at 8:18am
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Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on March 12, 2011 at 1:58pm
Organized religion doesn't always have to be rigid or rejecting of sexual non-conformity. I don't care for organized religion. I have something of an allergy for churches, even as meeting places for progressives and liberals. But I'm not a religio-phobe. From my Secular Humanist perspective I try to be aware of the constantly shifting changes of religion in culture. I found these browsing through YouTube. 
Click on MORE or scrool down to see all the URL links. There are 3.

Place for LGBT in Islam

Gay Pastor Meets Gay Imam in Cape Town South Africa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X9OcFJ6HHY&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Is There A Place For Gay Muslims? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HisIwWhyU34&feature=fvwrel

Gay Muslims - UK - Part 1 of 6 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f80pNyoL6A&feature=related

Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on March 12, 2011 at 1:51pm

The Michael Voris VIDEO.

I see this a little differently. I see the message here as intertwined with the Catholic doctrine of suffering. (Which has a HUGE class bias, but that's another discussion!!). So, I think the point here is that the homosexual, as created by God, is to be admired more for his/her special burden of suffering. This is not humanism, it might be humanitarian, and it is quasi liberal. At least, the sermon is not rejecting or condeming. Compared to a reactionary doctrine of sin and condemnation and assersation of power (like right wing Opus Dei), this is liberal. This is closer to the compassion and charity branch of theoloty, like the left wing Catholic Workers. But I don't have to like it. As a non-theist, I too find it duplicitous, but not contradictory within the logic of faith in suffering. I think we can all see here a reason why many of us strayed from the faith to a more naturalist and Epicurean philosophy of life.
  -- Gary

Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on March 12, 2011 at 1:34pm
Put the Old Testament Biblical injunctions against homosexuality in context. These came from ancient sheepherder near pre-agricultural tribal societies that were very keen on proscribing anything that didn't promote a high birthrate for their tribe. Personally I could care less. The Bible is not my guide book and I don't think it should be anyone's ultimate guide book or final authority, not even for theists. But as intelligent, well read critical minded people we should keep the historical in perspective and not be pure literalists ourselves. There are two loving relationships that stand above all other relationships in the Bible as based on love and free choice over pre-arranged marriages or marriages for power. These are David and Jonathan, and Ruth and Naomi. That should tell us something about the cultural and political norms of marriage at the time. - Gary
Comment by dr kellie on March 12, 2011 at 11:35am
That video is unbelievable.  I was just talking to my best friend about one of my exes, who was from Belfast and a 2% Catholic.  I recall her worrying about going to hell for being gay.  Her "strategy" was that when she got older, she would stop being gay and go to confession.  I'm not making this up.  It is a good thing she was cute, because if she had not been I would have dropped her on the spot for that nonsense.
Comment by Sentient Biped on March 12, 2011 at 11:13am
Damn text editor. That should have read "Homosexuals are "More intensely loved by god than most others""
Comment by Sentient Biped on March 12, 2011 at 11:08am

Homoexuals are "More intensely loved by go than most others" that's why the bible says they are an abomination. The aim of homosesuality is "the salvation of souls". I guess to become a priest? "The homosexual Catholic who accepts his cross... is a treasure beyond compare". "His cross will draw countless souls to christ".

The doublespeak here is beyond compare. Wow!
Comment by dr kellie on March 12, 2011 at 8:58am
Ding, dong, the bitch is dead!
Comment by Sentient Biped on March 12, 2011 at 6:23am
The offending post has been removed and the offending person is gone.  Brother Richard is aware and has removed him.  "Peace reins across the land"
Comment by Sentient Biped on March 11, 2011 at 11:47pm
CD, i can only hope that it still is and will be again.  I think the issue now is a serious lack of moderation.  Unfortunately, without that there is no way to prevent hate speech.  This LGBT group is probably the biggest Atheist-oriented LGBT group on the web, and I want it to continue to be a safe haven.
 

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