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Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on January 2, 2011 at 10:43am

Where does Goldberg, a staunch conservative, fall on the topic of gay marriage? His feelings may surprise you. Read "As gay becomes bourgeois."

 

excerpt:

"So now openly gay soldiers get to fight and die in neocon-imperialist wars too?

"David Brooks saw such ironic progressive victories coming. In his book "Bobos in Paradise," he wrote that everything 'transgressive' gets 'digested by the mainstream bourgeois order, and all the cultural weapons that once were used to undermine middle-class morality ... are drained of their subversive content.' " 

 


http://latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-goldberg-gays-2010...

latimes.com
Op-Ed
As gay becomes bourgeois
With 'don't ask, don't tell' repealed and gays seeking marriage equality, the homosexual bourgeoisie is emerging — a concept subversive to both liberals and conservatives.

Jonah Goldberg

December 28, 2010

 

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-goldberg-gays-...

 

 

Comment by Daniel W on January 1, 2011 at 9:46am
Happy New Year Everyone!  Here's to a healthy, happy, prosperous 2011!
Comment by Daniel W on December 24, 2010 at 9:53am

A couple of videos in the group heading on Uganda.  If we were going to have a "Profiles in Hate" series, Scott Lively would be a top-10 contender.  He claims that Naziism was led by gays, influenced or coauthored the Uganda bill.  I don't know what his thing is with Latvia - I guess few countries will welcome him.  He is quoted in conservapedia as stating "" In reality, homosexuality is nothing more than same-gender conduct among people who are innately and unchangeably heterosexual. Homosexuality is thus biologically (and to varying degrees morally) equivalent to pedophilia, sado-masochism, bestiality and many other forms of deviant behavior."

 

Scott Lively is an example of the evil that results from the combination of religion, politics, and whatever is his personal psychopathology. 

Comment by Daniel W on December 22, 2010 at 1:08am
Comment by Daniel W on December 22, 2010 at 12:53am
The UN reversed it's vote on "It's not OK to murder the gay". For some reason links are not working now - copy and paste this web address :http://www.towleroad.com/2010/12/breaking-un-votes-to-restore-sexua...

damn tha's awkward. I hope they fix it. Anyway, first DADT, now this. What next, Obama brings his boyfriend to the State of the Union address?
Comment by Richard Healy on December 21, 2010 at 3:11am

@ Sentient Biped

 

And of course you are right, any end to discriminatory practices is to be welcomed.

 

My post was pointed more towards the irony contained within the Law of Unintended Consequences

 

(i.e Vote for Gay Marriage, get Gay-Mother-in-Laws)

 

;^)

 

Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on December 21, 2010 at 1:12am


DADT may be limited to knowing or disclosing.
But what about actual acts of sodomy under US Uniform Military Code?

Uniform Code of Military Justice

ART. 125 of the UCMJ-SODOMY

(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the
same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to
complete the offense.
(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

-- -- --

Panel urges ending UCMJ's sodomy ban - News - Stripes
Oct 27, 2009... sodomy as a crime punishable under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, ... to end a ban on gays serving openly in the U.S. military. ...

http://www.stripes.com/news/panel-urges-ending-ucmj-s-sodomy-ban-1....

Comment by Daniel W on December 19, 2010 at 2:36pm

Richard,

I get your point, and it's valid.  I don't agree with all of the military intervertions or actions myself, although I'm not 100% pacifist and I am in fact a veteran.  I have been against the Iraq war from the start, and consider it part of the corruption of the Bush / Cheney regime.  I have mixed feelings about the war in Afganistan but am not happy abour that either. 

 

However, the ongoing discrimination against LGBT people is part of the larger picture of expressing our inferiority, poor character, that others feel contaminated by our presence.  I think that being equally at risk or involved in military is part of being a full citizen.  I understand if you disagree and respect your view.

Comment by Richard Healy on December 19, 2010 at 12:46pm

woo -hoo! Now we can be blown up needlessly in someone else's country for spectacularly little reason... wait... what?

Comment by Daniel W on December 18, 2010 at 3:22pm

Posted in Atheist News because it's relevant to all - but it looks like DADT is history. 

 

Finally, US Politicians have reluctantly followed the American People and voted to allow LGB (I don't know about transgendered people) to be open about their orientation as they risk their lives and die in defense of the country that won't give them equal rights. 

 

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