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Gay Marriage Steals Rights From God

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Obama quietly advances transgender rights

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West End Girls - Suburbia

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Finland's Gay Bondage Stamps

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Comment by A Former Member on November 19, 2010 at 6:04pm
Richard, that's so right. This is for you:

Comment by dr kellie on November 19, 2010 at 1:19pm
Craigery Morgan acting out a SNL skit involving Christopher Walken and Kristen Wiig. Happy weekend, gays!

Comment by dr kellie on November 19, 2010 at 1:12pm
Jay, you are correct. Watching him is like watching Kathy Lee. He is painfully simple, and egotistical. I feel sorry for Mika, too.
Comment by dr kellie on November 18, 2010 at 3:20pm
Like two men, sunbathing together on a beach...

Comment by Richard Healy on November 18, 2010 at 2:12am
Dallas, you just want me for my body. ;)
Comment by Phillip Borders on November 17, 2010 at 5:51pm
Thanks for all of the relationship comments. I guess I'll keep living my life as well as possible and see if I find that compatible person to further enrich my life.
Comment by James M. Martin on November 17, 2010 at 5:39pm
Religious Right Slams Gay-Tea Party Alliance

— By Stephanie Mencimer
| Tue Nov. 16, 2010 7:44 AM PST

Over the weekend, the conservative gay group GOProud co-authored a letter with some libertarian-leaning tea party activists calling on the GOP leadership in Congress to stay focused on the tea party's core fiscal issues, and not to go down the "rabbit hole" of divisive social issues like gay marriage and abortion. The move hasn't gone over too well with establishment evangelical groups, which have had an uneasy relationship with the burgeoning tea party movement from the beginning. I called the Family Research Council yesterday for a comment for a story I wrote on the issue, but never got a call back. Instead, FRC seems to have issued its response online, writing in its Washington update:

A group that had nothing to do with bringing the Republicans to power suddenly wants to dictate what the party does with it. GOProud, an aggressive pro-homosexual organization that desperately wants to be taken seriously by conservatives, is trying to force its way into the movement by persuading a small handful of tea partiers to sign on to a social truce for the 112th Congress...

FRC points out what we noted, which is that most tea partiers are firmly in the social conservative camp:

According to the latest data, an overwhelming number of Tea Partiers (almost two-thirds) believe abortion should be outlawed. About half believe in the Bible as the literal word of God, and most think that public officials don't pay nearly enough attention to it or religion as a whole. According to Zogby data, 82% of them oppose same-sex "marriage."

And the group sees a bit of hypocrisy in GOProud's call for Republicans to abandon social issues even as the group lobbies them for a repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't tell" and other expansions of gay rights. FRC takes this as a call for one-sided disarmament, which it soundly rejects:

For starters, that won't fly with the broader Tea Party movement which is solidly in the social conservative camp (see DeMint, Jim). Secondly, it's a losing strategy for America. We need to shrink the size of government, but America needs strong families. Those families—not GOProud's phony substitutes—are the backbone of society. Think about the welfare costs associated with the breakdown of social order. Think about the cost in terms of crime and the criminal justice system. What about the loss of human potential? Do these folks really think we can just eliminate those government expenditures overnight? What this crowd is advocating will lead to anarchy, which, ironically, would provide GOProud and friends a perfect environment for their lifestyle.

While the tea party movement may be in the beginning of an internecine battle to define itself as the movement of smaller government or one that also wades into fights over social issues, it's clear from the FRC blog today that the Republican Party is still engaged in a bit of a civil war. And that battle is likely to be fought not over any libertarian versus social issue focus, but over allegiances. Does the grand old party align itself with the new tea party activists (who are also socially conservative) or remain loyal to the old reliable foot-soldiers of the Religious Right embodied in the FRC? Keeping both camps happy is likely to be a Herculean political task, and at some point, the party is going to have to pick a side.
Comment by A Former Member on November 17, 2010 at 1:47pm
I'll employ you Richard. But you have to do exactly what I ask! : )
Comment by Richard Healy on November 17, 2010 at 1:45pm
I am not a professional writer I am professionally unemployed. Can't seem to convince anyone to employ me.
Comment by Dominic Florio on November 17, 2010 at 10:35am
A few comments on all of the relationship discussion:
I agree that we all should love ourselves and be our own best friend, but for most of us, biologically, pair bonding is a natural drive. I'm a complete person, but a relationship adds another dimension to my life.
Although I would like to find an atheist, it has never been a rule. What I have learned through the years, is that it never works with a very religious person. The reason is that they are hurt or resentful if they the atheist discusses his philosophy or concerns with religion, even if it is with someone else. Also, every person who claims to be a person of "faith" has their doubts. They become concerned when the atheist partner says something or lives his life in a way that reminds him of those doubts. They often hope and pray that you will convert.
Like all of us, since we live in the real world, we have family, friends, and lovers who are believers. I get along with all of them and we can playfully tease each other about our philosophies. But, this never works with someone who is dedicated to a church or religion. I had met someone who wanted to be with me so badly, he lied about being religious. He claimed that he was no longer involved with any church. I later found out that he was going to a gay Pentecostal church (one of the craziest of churches) and was praying for my conversion. He resented anything I or my family had to say about religion.
Anyway, I'm not looking for a clone of myself, but someone who compliments me and I, him.
I have nothing against "mixed marriages" but there can be added conflicts due to such differences. Think about it, an atheist and an evangelist, a progressive and a republican, or a man and a woman, how could that work? LOL
 

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