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Comment by sk8eycat on December 6, 2014 at 8:14pm

Janice, for that matter, houses, tap water, and automobiles aren't "natural" either. Nor fancy cathedrals. They just. Don't. Get. It.

Comment by Janice Rael on December 6, 2014 at 5:52pm

Just remind them that computers are not natural, eyeglasses are not natural, air conditioning is not natural, deliberately ingesting medicine to cure an ailment is not natural..

Comment by sk8eycat on December 6, 2014 at 3:30pm

James, I have read and heard that homosexuality is "unnatural" or "against nature" more times than I can count.  And I want to scream.

REAL naturalists have recorded "homosexual behavior" in the wild for decades....it's a FACT, like evolution, and the real age of the universe(s).....I just want to beat that into the pea-brains that the customs of their one bigoted little tribe are not laws of nature.

BUT....the Michigan legislature has gone bonkers....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/05/1349672/-Michigan-House-pa...

And yet another unarmed black man has been killed by police....

I've GOT to stop reading DAILY KOS!  It makes me want to leave the building.  NOW.

Comment by Daniel W on December 6, 2014 at 11:02am

p.s.  Gore Vidal in that video is awesome!  So much ahead of his time.

Comment by James M. Martin on December 6, 2014 at 10:58am

sk8eycat, you don't carry that thought quite far enough. The problem with homophobes is that they equate "natural" with "normal" or even "ideal." If something can be done, it is natural by definition. So it really makes no difference if one "is" lgbtq because of genetic predisposition or choice, the latter being the cherished notion of a group of people who decry "choice" in the decisions of both men and women, including straight women. If the bigots were to accept the notion that one is born lgbtq, then what would their God look like: a capricious, arbitrary, frivolous deity whose name I only know as Chance.

Comment by Daniel W on December 6, 2014 at 10:27am

1967.  This was an attempt at rational, nonjudgemental journalism about, mostly gay men.  It's painful to watch.  Soccarides spread his bigotry, under the guise of psychiatry, to those who should have been supportive.  He was not just misinformed, he was a bigot.  The Freudian myths of overbearing mother, weak father, harmed both the gay person and passed blame to their innocent parents.  That was a time of profound persecution, bigotry, punishment, misinformation....  there is still plenty of that now, but we have come so, so far.  People love to speculate and expound on things they have no knowledge about.  Thanks to free thinking, courageous, strong, thoughtful, interested, caring people the changes have been profound.  Those pioneers include  LGBT people as well as those who have been supportive.

Persecute, discriminate, demonize people - and then blame them for not fitting in. How perverse society was, and in many places continues to be.

Comment by sk8eycat on November 26, 2014 at 2:55am

A new study shows that homosexuality is natural and debunks criticism that claims it is not.

I have been saying for decades that if wild animals that mate for life can have same-sex partners, it HAS to be natural.  Of course, if homosexuality and evolution are mentioned in the same paragraph, the fundies are going to go apeshit....well, they will, anyway.

Comment by James M. Martin on November 25, 2014 at 11:26pm

I've said it for ages: lgbtq people are essential to the evolutionary process.

Comment by James M. Martin on November 25, 2014 at 11:25pm
Comment by C.L.A.W.S. on November 23, 2014 at 6:16pm

Growing Pains, thanks James.

Maybe Kirk should see Ted Haggerty?

I saw Haggerty for the first time on R.Dawkins Root of All Evil, &  his eyes gave me a fright right then & there.

 

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