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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 28, 2014 at 4:24pm

@ Sentient - now that is a PERFECT example of right wing nutcase logic! Another argument against gay marriage is it wrecks Oscar Wilde's claim that "'Marriage' and 'bigamy' are much the same; both mean having one wife too many."

Comment by Daniel W on August 28, 2014 at 4:13pm
I dont have links, but I have read that same sex marriages tend to be more egalitarian compared to opposite sex marriages. There is a hint of evidence that children raised in same sex parent families, may be more balanced and well socialized too. That will be the next argument against marriage equality. if gay married couples are more mutually supportive, and give their kids a better start in life, that makes "traditional families" look bad, and feel bad, Families are supposed to be dysfunctional, therefore gay marriages threaten "tradional marriages" by setting too high a standard.
Comment by sk8eycat on August 28, 2014 at 3:30pm

I remember as far back as 1967 (and farther) when police in some towns (cities) raided gay bars just for the hell of it. Once in Minneapolis, our company manager had to bail out most of the boys chorus line (and a couple of principal skaters) one day, or we would not have been able to put on a show.  All that was going on, as far as I know, was that the guys were having a drink or two, and meeting some of the "locals."  That was NEVER an actual crime!

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 28, 2014 at 1:58pm

@GC -- no kidding! As some pundit a while back put it, "The love that dare not speak its name has become the love that won't shut up!" I'm still waiting to hear how it is that marriage equality "threatens" traditional marriage. It's kind of like waiting for god to answer a prayer!

Comment by Grinning Cat on August 28, 2014 at 1:08pm

That is quite a reversal from the times when courts routinely considered LGB people diseased criminals, to this hearing, when the best argument presented against equal marriage is that same-sex couples are "too responsible" to need it!

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 28, 2014 at 9:22am

Wisconsin and Indiana's arguments against gay marriage apparently did not go so well for them:

Desperate new argument against same-sex marriage laughed out of court

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on August 25, 2014 at 4:17pm
Comment by Daniel W on August 22, 2014 at 10:01pm

Rob, Welcome!

Comment by Rob Nash on August 22, 2014 at 9:13pm
Yay gay
Comment by Grinning Cat on August 22, 2014 at 11:50am

Equal marriage does threaten one thing: religious conservatives' worldview that their "god-given" traditional prejudice is somehow the one "true", "right", and "natural" way, and government going along with it somehow ennobles and validates it. (As opposed to other believers' equally revered "god-given" rules, or to actual reason, empathy, and morality.) And that delusion needs to be threatened! (Yes, I'm preaching to the choir, and possibly a few actual former preachers who are members here!)

Anyway, the person who literally put words in the dog's mouth couldn't have said it better!


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